Beware of Broadway Dreams at Unifieds!

<p>Newcomer is different than very first post. Whether it is happening in this case or not – and I never said it was, many entities have been known to populate sites such as this with inflated reviews and bushings. Thereby the skepticism. It is a logical inference and was mentioned by another poster as well as myself. And I did concur that the initial post is a single data point. </p>

<p>I have 0 opinion of BDF. Neither myself nor my d have worked with or heard of them before this post. I was merely pointing out that it seemed very odd the first poster was vehement and insulting in their defense. </p>

<p>This should be an open forum and we can respectfully agree to disagree about what causes skepticism and about which programs are great and not great. </p>

<p>I appreciate and respect bdfs response. </p>

We recently had such a disappointing experience with one of the Broadway Dreams intensives that I want let others know this expensive program might not be what they are hoping for. We feel duped.

My family member was in a BDF intensive for the first time in Los Angeles last week. BDF, a nonprofit organization, advertises on their website that the performers who are accepted will perform in a showcase at the end of the intensive. These two quotes appear on their website: “Each summer The Broadway Dreams foundation travels the country for week-long summer intensives. Broadway-bound performers are selected by audition (live and video) from around the country and abroad, and attend the week-long intensive in the city or cities of their choice to embark on a strenuous week of Broadway-caliber training from the best in the field. Performers attend educational classes, along with rehearsals in preparation for a Broadway style showcase at the end of each intensive week, where they perform alongside their idols.” and “The Broadway Dreams Foundation is the premier performing arts training program. With a faculty of Broadway professionals, casting directors, choreographers and agents dedicated to giving back to the theatrical community, we provide invaluable training to anyone who aspires to a career in musical theater. . . . There is no better way to grow as a performer and auditioner while making valuable connections than through Broadway Dreams.”

The week long intensive seemed chaotic and disorganized, and the originally scheduled first and last days were cancelled. At first I wondered how, with that kind of disorganization, they could pull together a show. Eventually, through observation and with a little research, I figured it out: it was apparent that there was an established group of staff, interns and students with a history together who all knew each other very well. This group of “interns” and “students” were cast in nearly every “role” in the production, which was in the style of a revue but was most definitely not a showcase. The young man who was cast in most of the male “lead” parts is the son of the executive director of BDF and is in fact listed on the BDF website as a successful alumna. He is talented (and a very nice person), but there were certainly male students who could (and should) have been cast in some or all of the parts he played. Similarly, there were several young women (who we learned later have a lengthy history with BDF and/or close connections with the staff) who appeared repeatedly in the lead female parts; each one had several songs they performed individually alone on stage and individually within group numbers. Again, many of the female students could (and should) have performed some or all of those songs. At least one of the “featured” performers is identified on other websites as “touring” with BDF, one was on American Idol, one joins a national tour this fall, etc. In addition to the fact that they were “ringers” for BDF, not one of the performers was so good that they should have eliminated the chance for students to perform, especially since students were told this was a showcase they would perform in.

Following the show, someone in the lobby commented that it was obvious they were trying to promote their own contingent of longtime up and comers. It certainly appeared that way; I also think it is takes less work to use the same people over and over again, rather than actually cultivating the new talent they claim to care so much about.

Similarly appalling, the new students were frequently not even addressed by name, because no one knew their names. Of course, in the real world, when they audition for and are cast in real shows, that might be typical. But when you are paying close to a thousand dollars for the experience, it doesn’t seem like too much to ask that staff and instructors learn their names, or at least, that each participant be given a name tag. Even worse than not knowing who they were, no one seemed to have a clue of their abilities. As the week progressed, several of the instructors and individual directors seemed surprised to observe that my family member and some of the other new students who were “nameless” are actually very good and experienced performers. Several of these people offered very sincere compliments to these students; my family member was told repeatedly how talented he/she is. Yet at the performance, these students had almost nothing to do onstage.

Most of the instructors and individual segment directors that my family member met were very helpful and encouraging. This commentary is in no way a criticism of the instructors and individual directors themselves. My family member was very appreciative of the suggestions and advice his/her instructors and directors provided.

Unfortunately, the promised agents and casting directors never materialized.

In the emails prior to the intensive and during the rehearsal week, BDF requested both monetary and in-kind donations. We complied, at fairly significant expense, but have received no acknowledgment of our donation (which we need for tax purposes, since BDF is a tax exempt organization). They also represented that the student who sold the most tickets to the performance would receive featured stage time; because no announcement was made in that regard, I do not know whether they followed through on that promise.

Combining tickets purchases, donations and tuition, we are out of pocket approximately $1400, which I consider to be a lot of money for a short week and no chance to perform.

Hi there @andsoitgoes I will do my best to answer each of your criticisms.
Firstly, I’m sorry you feel duped, and would be willing to speak to you directly if you contact me at annette@mybroadwaydreams.com
Los Angeles week was a conundrum for us, one week before we were due to arrive we got a bill from the LAUSD for almost $9000 for janitor and security fees associated with the school we were set to be in the beginning of the week.
This was completely unexpected and impossible to bear for a small not for profit arts program, so we were thrown into a stressful situation trying to determine whether to cancel LA or to try to find another venue. We had already had some challenges with faculty booking Broadway shows and us having additional costs associated with that particular week. In this business things can happen very very fast and we try to do our best to find a solution and provide the same or a better opportunity for the young artists we get to work with. So I apologize for the impression of disorganization early on.
I don’t know if you attended the orientation for parents and students but on day one we explained our program and specifically that our program is about the classes, that our goal first and foremost is the education of those students and that our show at the end of the week, is a part of that and a bonus, NOT the end result of the weeks work. Our students get to work with folks who are currently directing and choreographing on Broadway, and the show is a great way for our students to see first hand how those people work, and what it takes to get to that level.
We also focus on how to best get each student to the next level for them individually.
One thing I see often, is parents who think the amount that student is in the show is a reflection of the students experience. If they are in the show briefly, then they in fact got to take all the classes.
They got training from teaching artists I know to be some of the best in this business.
You cannot ‘pay’ for more exposure or a feature, it’s cast the way any show is.
As for us bringing in ‘ringers’ or featuring the interns, let me explain how our weeklong works - day one is final casting where students go in front of the creative team and audition. At that point the directors for each segment select who they want to work with and in what role, based on that audition. Our directors get to create theatre, to innovate and to teach and we ask them to do it as they would in the real world.
We believe that to be a great learning tool for students to see what really happens away from some local school or community productions.
The ‘ringer’ you mention from American Idol was a paid student just like you, someone who has attended BDF on and off for the past 9 years, she came back because she recently moved to LA and wanted to get the training and also exposure to agents she has not been able to get seen by.
Just because someone is older than high school does not mean they are there as an intern. The other girl you most likely think is a favored intern, with the red hair, she is a first time BDF student also. She has done several non-equity national tours and decided to come to BDF with the hope of being seen or getting the opportunity to work with our directors.
This is not the first time I have heard assumed chatter about who ‘is’ or ‘is not’ featured, what literally happens is we try to mirror what really happens when these young artists go in to audition, the directors choose who they would cast. Sometimes that means the same person over and over. What is clear then is that person is probably very close to booking a job professionally, and historically that has been the case with students who have attended BDF.
As for the suggestion that there is bias regarding my son, is that really a fair statement? This young man has done two professional shows in NY, he’s just 18 years old, neither of which I had any role in him booking, I didn’t then, and I don’t now personally know James Lapine or William Finn but they chose to cast him. Does he audition for placement at BDF, yes he does, just like everyone else, sometimes he gets a feature sometimes he doesn’t, it probably depends on who he is in front of, and how well he auditions, as someone who has taken Broadway Dreams for many years he has had some great training, in audition situations - does he sometimes bomb? Yes, just like everyone else. He has had plenty of BDF weeks where you wouldn’t even know he was in the show.
He IS a nice young man. And I wonder how he would feel reading this? I imagine he has to work harder to overcome the judgement that because he is my son he is getting favored treatment, the fact is if I am asked, I more often than not will push for someone else, just because I don’t want people to suppose he’s getting anything he doesn’t deserve. I don’t do that for other boys who come in and nail their auditions, I fight for them. And this sort of comment is incredibly disheartening. Just so you know, we also pay for him to attend every single intensive he has taken, this week in Park City is the very first time he has been referred to as an intern. And that’s because he’s worked so hard and deserves it.
Your comment about the agents and casting directors who did not materialize - there were many agents and casting folks in the audience, some of who have already emailed me asking for information about students they saw.
And the final day casting which was canceled, that’s because Rachel Hoffman from Telsey had a family medical emergency and had to drop out last minute, what she did instead is ask us to tape every student who wanted to attend the final day casting and she would be providing them with written feedback. We had Nariné work all morning and early afternoon taping every single student who wanted to be seen and they will all be getting a response. I presume you didn’t read the email that explained that.
The other thing that’s important to note is that any investment in BDF never has to be for that one week, we pride ourselves on the ongoing mentorship for our alumni, we offer free classes in NY every month with the exception of the summer to provide training when kids get out of school, move to NY and really need help. We constantly look for and provide free performance opportunities for our students way after the summer weeks have passed.
We clearly need to rewrite the description of our weeklong - it’s arts education, did your student learn anything? Did the classes not deliver?
The show is a part of the educational experience, and if they and you feel now, that it’s not fair, and that the same people get roles in shows. You are in the world of musical theatre, it’s really really hard to get one of those features… But when you do, it truly means something.
Again, I would be happy to speak to you directly and answer any questions annette@mybroadwaydreams.com

this is an interesting thread and I appreciate all the info, positive and neg. We will be sending our D to a summer intensive or similar next summer so trying to find one that is a good fit for what she wants. I have info from several, including Broadway Dreams. My D already attended a week long “camp” in NYC last summer that was very expensive. I was not that pleased with it, it was just OK. I agree when spending the money these programs entail, you should be pleased for the most part at it’s conclusion. That being said there are SO many of them that it is hard to choose the right one. My D’s camp was a lot of “fluff” i would call it but she did get to meet several Broadway stars, including one of her very favorites so it was worth it for that really. They kept saying there were going to be “casting agents” at camp but that never materialized either. The headshot and resume "review’ was inadequate for feedback. We did not really get any which they said we would. I think we will stick to a program based at a college focusing on college prep and so forth. We also had a “showcase” on last day but it was mediocre at best. I agree that MT is a brutal business & there is a fine line between having your high schooler in a camp that should at least let them shine a bit while understanding the “business” is a hard one and the kids need to see the “real world” but again they are still kids and you are paying for an experience so as a parent I see both points really. Heck at my D’s camp they called all the kids names at the showcase and they didnt even call hers…she was so very upset but then they were told they "forgot " her and said her name later but the damage was already done so to speak…everyone was already leaving!

Our D participated in a number of different summer programs prior to college - USPA, Destination Broadway, OCU and mPulse. She met great friends and others in the industry at each of these camps. Some camps were more intense and instructional than others. All were a significant investment. I would say at each there were campers and parents who raved about the camp. And there were also those that were not happy with the experience. I think unhappiness usually was because their expectations for the experience didn’t match the reality of the camp. So really make sure your expectations are realistic prior to going to the camp.

My advice is to really do your due diligence. First off, make a list of what you hope to gain from your camp experience. Do you want to prepare for college auditions? Get training from Broadway pros? Learn from college professors? Put on a show? Meet casting agents? Not all camps offer the same thing so make sure the one you choose offers the type of training you are seeking.

Secondly, reach out to others who’ve attended that camp and get their reviews. Be aware though that in theatre, our evaluation of an experience can often be tied to casting. This happens in my own house as well. If we are disappointed in an assigned role or feel we should have had a bigger part, it somehow makes the experience a little less than. This can be especially hard at these camps because often times it is the first time our big fish from our home towns have been thrown in a casting pool with talented kids from around the country -some of whom may have a lot more experience. Just keep it all in perspective. You are there to learn. Soak up as much as you can from the instructors, fellow campers and any other industry pros you may encounter. The part you have in camp is not going to make or break your future career.

If you are attending a college based program - do not do so because you think it will give you a leg up on admittance to that program. The majority of kids who attend summer college programs are not admitted into those MT programs. Just look at the #s. If they take 50 kids a summer for camp, and they admit 20 kids to their MT program for college - and some of those 20 kids admitted did not go to the summer camp - most of the kids who go to the summer program are not getting in. Again, keep your expectations realistic.

We have not participated in Broadway Dreams but do know several kids who have who have had good experiences with them. That is not to say others have not. I am sorry for those who were not happy with their experience. But if it is a program you wish to consider, I would do some more digging to find out if it is a program that is right for your child. I am impressed by BDF’s response to the criticism here and their offer to answer questions directly. I would take them up on that if it is a program you are considering.

There are lots of training opportunities out there. Choose the one that best fits your family. Keep expectations in check. Make friends. Learn a lot. And most of all, have fun!

Great advice here…my daughter is completing her 4th week of a 7 week acting intensive that I spent quite a bit of time researching. The one thing that was important to my daughter was size of program. She wanted an opportunity to get a lot of feedback and training in an intimate setting. She auditioned and was accepted into a program that has 14 students (there are two groups of 14). They were very upfront about the showcase at the end and that the training and classes were the focus and the showcase was a celebration of what they had learned over the 7 weeks. At this stage in my daughter’s training she is not ready to be signed by an agent (she has 3 years of college left) so that wasn’t as important to her as it may be for others. As the others have stated, lots of research and speaking with former students of programs does help. (not suggesting that you all didn’t do that ahead of time).

@vvnstar, out of curiosity, what program is your daughter doing? You can PM me if you don’t want to share publicly!

@ MTVT2016 - Our D is in the MT program at OCU. Was that question perhaps for @bisouu?

My D has participated in Broadway Dreams since the age of 10. She has been able to because she receives scholarships. She doesn’t always get features in the performances but the experiences, advice and relationships she’s received are priceless. BDF doesn’t just function for that 1 week. Where she hasn’t been featured during the summer she has been featured in showcases in NYC and their charity fundraisers. She also gets casting notices for upcoming projects. Her current vocal coach was an instructor during one of her intensives and he is absolutely marvelous. She’s also received free tickets to touring productions during the year as well. My D loves every summer she spends with BDF. I get it. I think my daughter is super-talented and would love to see her featured in more numbers. But hey sometimes that’s the way things go. For many of these features they have to audition. And sometimes the audition doesn’t go her way. Nevertheless, our experiences with BDF have been positive and we look forward to this summer. With college auditions coming up for her this year we are looking forward to BDF’s College Prep workshops.