@yellahamma And congrats to your D!
@NYDreammom - last year the overall admit rate at NYU took a nosedive to from 28% to 19% but again - that’s NYU as a whole. Tisch and Stern are both tougher admits than CAS and I do think the difference in ED vs RD has more to do with “match”. NYU got over 70,000 applications last year so - there’s a whole lotta people applying for the heck of it!!! 
https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2018/march/NYU_Class_Of_2022.html
Sorry to highjack the Acting thread!
For anyone interested Mason Gross advised their acceptance rate is 8% of auditioned applicants.
It seems that CCM notifications from on campus auditions are going out ?
@CaMom13 I don’t remember where we got 30% - perhaps it was my number-crunching based on stats at Tisch info session. And, thanks for offering to provide insight into the exciting challenges ahead for D. ?
The overall acceptance rate at colleges does not correlate to BFA acceptance rates
Yes I concur that auditioned BFA rates are different than the overall college acceptance rates. For the smaller, auditioned programs, the rate is often about 3-8%.
The numbers are crazy and I agree don’t correlate to the overall college acceptance rate. We freshman parents recently saw the University of Evansville statistics: " . . .faculty members travel nationwide to audition and interview over 2400 prospective students - accepting students who have the academic credentials and creative talent necessary to succeed. These 25 first years hail from 15 different states across the country." These 25 are performance, theatre management and tech. That’s about a 1% yield. The kids need a combination of skill and luck at these odds. BAL everyone - and there is no single path.
@yellahamma - CONGRATS! my D just graduated from Tisch in May. She loved it. Please feel free to reach out if you have any questions etc
Thank you, @toowonderful!
On the acceptance statistics, all these schools try to look as selective as possible. If a school says they have a Freshman class of 25 out of 2400 auditioned, they definitely admitted more than 25. They probably admitted somewhere between 50-80 kids if those are BFAs, more if BAs. Which would make the acceptance rate more like 3%. Yield from admitted to enrolled students typically is 1/3-1/2 depending on how much in-demand a school is.
While many schools do admit more than the number of students they have places for, hoping for a yield of x amount, not all do this. Some schools initially admit only the number of students they actually want/have spots for, and then go to their waitlists (some call them priority hold lists) if students decline. Some schools also have “alternates” for specific spots, so if “short brunette” that was admitted declines her spot, then “short brunette alternate” would be admitted. I have wondered how many “alternates” there might be for each spot.
Acceptance rates are discussed every year, and I think everyone always ultimately agrees that BFA admittance is REALLY difficult and the acceptance rate is really low!
agreed @MTmom2017 - some schools do the waitlist approach. Makes it harder to calculate acceptance rate, when you don’t see the number on the waitlist they went through.
For University of Evansville, that 2400 number seemed suspect to me. So I looked them up and found their numbers on their theatre admissions page. Here’s what it says… “Currently, faculty members see approximately 1700 auditions, receive nearly 500 applications, and accept approximately 40 first-year students into the department.”
1700 or 2400, I am not trying to nitpick or fact correct your post @diamondparent. Just trying to give what I believe is a better way to view the statistics.
And the data on that webpage may be old. 1700 may be from a couple of years ago. 2400 might be current. I find often these Universities don’t keep such pages current.
Anyway, when they say faculty members see 1700 auditions and receive 500 applications, I feel that the 500 applications is what really matters. The 1700 auditions they are seeing must be including walkins at the different Unifieds and regional combine auditions. My D did one of these regional combine auditions last fall. She auditioned in front of a panel of about 18 schools at once. She only submitted an application to one of them that she was interested in. She had one professor chase after at the end of the day practically begging her to apply. She got two unsolicited “acceptances” with scholarships later in the mail, telling her all she had to do was fill out application. There was a lot of “recruiting” going on at this event.
I think in computing an acceptance rate, it makes more sense to look at admitted students to students who formally applied vs the number of students the faculty members “see”. Applications are a PITA, and cost extra $$. So students only do it if they are seriously interested and think they have a chance.
40 admitted students from 500 applications… that’s 8%. Certainly still low. Still selective. Still difficult to get into.
In contrast, Ithaca College, a top tier program, received 1900 prescreen submissions (I just read this hear on CC). But you have to submit an application through the common app first before you can send in a prescreen. Their final desired class is 16. Presuming that they have to admit or waitlist 50-100% more than their target to get that yield of 16, then they are admitting 25-40 students. That’s what I consider a true 1-2% acceptance rate.
But still as I said above, 8% is damn hard to get into as well. Any decent program these days is hard to get into.
@socalpops I completely agree with your math and analysis on the acceptance rates. My point, other than being blown away by the numbers that I hadn’t know before, is that the BFA acceptance rates are in a completely different league from the overall university acceptance rates. And the difference between 1% and 10% has no impact on the stress of waiting. My D has learned to focus on what she can control - doing the best audition that she can - and letting the results end up where they will. We celebrate good auditions. There are so many more rejections than acceptances in this business.
Anyone in Atlanta for Marymount audition?
For parents who have been through this before, can anyone share around what times your children heard back from schools after auditions?
@gidamom It really varies a bit. Some schools will send out acceptances/rejections early. Most acceptances are spread between mid- February through April 1st and the same would be true for rejections. Some schools will notify via the portal and some schools make personal calls. I found last year that parents were great about alerting acceptances and rejections as they came in. For example. Pace makes personal calls around the end of the first week of March and if there are any students accepted on CC, the news will be shared quickly. For that particular school, if you don’t get a call then it probably means your child is waitlisted or not admitted artistically. Waitlist is mailed via snail mail I think. Although it is so hard really pin anything down exactly. For my S, Marymount responded acceptance within a couple of days. The other acceptances came between February 24th and April 1st. He had one WL that we removed him from on 5/1 after he officially committed to his chosen school. If you are wondering about specific schools, please list them because there are likely parents that can give specific dates. Wishing you the best!
Thanks @frontrowmama !
@gidamom there is a thread on the MT forum about this. It may not lineup exactly but I imagine it would be pretty close.