<p>Look, buddeh, you have NOTHING to back up your “if not racist” allegation, so I politely request that you refrain from making such comments until you actually find evidence of such in my posts, which you won’t find, since I view individuals as individuals, not members of groups, and so I cannot practice “racism.”</p>
<p>Bitter? I had a 100% acceptance rate as a high school senior, and I got into two dream schools to pursue my PhD. Don’t confuse my opposition to racial preferences as “bitterness.”</p>
<p>I think it’s pretty well known that there are racial differences in intelligence. And if “intelligence” is a main component of elite college admissions, then it can be expected (if the conservatives are correct) that the abolition of affirmative will result in an increase in Asian Americans (and perhaps whites) at elite schools and a decrease of Hispanics and Blacks. </p>
<p>What some people don’t seem to understand is that attending an elite school significantly RAISES IQ. When a black person with a low SAT enters an elite school, they undergo a transformation brought upon by the brilliant students who create a non-oppressive environment for them to reach their potential. This is why affirmative action is fair. Elite colleges are able to help URMs more than they can help whites or Asians, who don’t see the massive gain in cognitive ability.</p>
<p>^ First of all, I would like to point out that IQ and intelligence is different. IQ is intrinsic and unchangeable while intelligence is dynamic.</p>
<p>Second, you assume blacks live in an oppressive environment; this is true for few, but false for the majority. Why not judge each individual? Why not judge each minority on an individual basis to see whether or not each of them grew up in a racially divided or discriminatory environment? AA takes race into account collectively, ignoring individual analysis. While colleges include both into admissions, the notion that a person racial status should give a even slightly bit more consideration is wholly unnecessary in determining who deserves to be admitted; individual analysis is all colleges need.</p>
<p>As to your claim that URMs grow intellectual after being admitted to an elite college, it is not necessarily true. Before Berkeley ended AA, blacks had less than 70% graduation rate. After AA ended, meaning that blacks had to compete with everyone else on an equal level, black graduation rate soared to over 90%. “This is why affirmative action is fair.” Fair to whom? Definitely not to the individual applicant whom AA works against.</p>
<p>Also, you will have a really hard time to find support for your final claim that Asians and Whites don’t benefit as much as a black person. Even IF you are somewhat correct, this doesn’t change the fact that AA is all about equality of result, not equality of opportunity. AA proponent want diversity as result, regardless of what tactic is used and whether that tactic is fair or not. </p>
<p>Diversity is important, but individual liberty and freedom of opportunity is even more important. Directly reducing the chances of Asian/Whites by giving more chances is not the way to go. The opportunity cost is simply too great. I am Asian, and I do not want to have a lesser chance for admissions simply because of my race. </p>
<p>Lastly, I see that some people in this thread are not arguing appropriately. If you want to argue against what I wrote, please do so with respect.</p>
<p>“Diversity is important, but individual liberty and freedom of opportunity is even more important.”</p>
<p>Ok, so how would you remedy things then? </p>
<p>“Directly reducing the chances of Asian/Whites by giving more chances is not the way to go. The opportunity cost is simply too great. I am Asian, and I do not want to have a lesser chance for admissions simply because of my race.”</p>
<p>So far no-one has proven your assertion and the Esplanade study does not actually make that claim. For the vast majority of US colleges I’ll bet your statement is false. It’s a frequently reported myth here on CC, but so far no proof. Mostly just Asian losers with “sour grapes” blaming blacks. And if Buchannan had his way we’d have a bunch of white losers saying the same thing. It’s a little like the recent Sherrod/Fox news stuff, everyone believes something, without really checking the facts. Iraq has WMD, a hundred thousand people died and whoops, we were wrong, didn’t bother to check the facts. Sorrry!</p>
<p>And in comes Lowell with his “Asian losers” remark! Hey, Mr. Lowell, how do you define me? As I wrote above, I had a 100% acceptance rate as a high school senior, and I got into two dream PhD programs. But I oppose racial preferences out of principle; I would oppose them EVEN IF they resulted in fewer Asians’ being admitted to top schools. Does that make me an “Asian loser,” Mr. Lowell?</p>
<p>These topics always end up the same way, a bunch of Asian losers bashing blacks. They didn’t get in or are worried sick about not “getting in” and need someone to pin it on. Same old song. “I didn’t get in! Boo hOO hoo!” Gotta blame it on somebody. “It’s not fair, I’m better than those blacks, boo hoo hoo!” You didn’t get in, you’re a loser, move on.</p>
<p>boohoo boo hoo, I didn’t get in. I’m an Asian, I’m a poor white that’s why. Thank-you Mr Buchannan for pointing that out. Down with blacks! It’s all their fault. I’m Harvard material but I didn’t get in. A black got my spot, and my SAT was 3 points higher than his. Boo hoo
I’ve had every advantage in life, but now I’ve been wronged. boo hoo hoo. I’ll have to go to tufts or NYU or my state flag. OH no. My parents will be shattered. boo hoo hoo.</p>
I’m pretty sure you have this flipped, if anything. IQ scores can changes. They’re a test score, and IQ scores can vary on any given day. They are most certainly not unchangeable.</p>
<p>It is ironic that supporters of affirmative action are often the ones who through out the derogatory racial statements. They complain about how their lives have been so impacted by racial discrimination but then call those who appose them privileged asians with “sour grapes”. It is sad that so few can create an articulate argument for affirmative action when the policy is so championed by the general public.</p>
<p>For example, look at how many people have attacked fabrizio in this topic alone. None of his posts have been offensive yet people refuse to refute his statements and instead opt for personal attacks on a seemingly nice person. On top of this, some people even take a moral high ground, determining that simply opposing affirmative action is immoral and racist. Obviously these points are a generalization, but some of you posters <em>cough</em> amber2010 <em>cough</em> need to stop seeing anti-AA posts as anti-minority posts but rather pro-civil rights posts which in the end help everybody.</p>
<p>It is once again amazing to see the false flags put up by many whites regarding the phony cries of reverse discrimination. As I have said before, as a very affluent individual who will not engage in this hypocitical exercise of crying wolf, below just another example how children of the wealthy as well as Upper Middle Class game a system that is designed for them and not minorities. The link below is just another reminder how we even use our priviledge as early as 4th grade. It’s funny how parents in my community which is extremely affluent never talk hypocritically about minorities getting admission to good schools because we know what our position has afforded our kids.</p>