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<p>A veterans day celebration in honor of the heroes who have served!!
TONIGHT!! 7:00pm ET / 4:00pm PT</p>
<p>Features #1 UNC vs unranked MSU… lol</p>
<p>GO GREEEEEEEEEEN!!! lol</p>
<p>[2011</a> Quicken Loans Carrier Classic](<a href=“Sorry! | Rocket Companies”>http://quickenloanscarrierclassic.com/)</p>
<p>[Penn</a> State scandal: Joe Paterno’s name removed from Big Ten trophy; Obama weighs in - The Washington Post](<a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/penn-state-scandal-joe-paternos-name-removed-from-big-ten-trophy-obama-weighs-in/2011/11/14/gIQA9W2uLN_story.html]Penn”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/penn-state-scandal-joe-paternos-name-removed-from-big-ten-trophy-obama-weighs-in/2011/11/14/gIQA9W2uLN_story.html)</p>
<p>Might be time for BIG contraction.</p>
<p>barrons: Do you honestly think the B1G would dump PSU?</p>
<p>No, but a 1 year suspension to let thing cool down and get right might not be bad. They have badly harmed the BIG brand as well as their own. Their kids will get razzed wherever they play this year. This incident is the worst thing I have seen with a major college in my lifetime. Easily. I can’t even think of second place.</p>
<p>This is also very sad & bad…</p>
<p>Miami Booster paid for prostitutes and an abortion</p>
<p>[Miami</a> scandal could yield ‘‘Death Penalty’’, says UM accuser Nevin Shapiro - YouTube](<a href=“- YouTube”>- YouTube)!</p>
<p>Naming the Big 10 trophy after Stagg and Paterno makes no sense. I always respected Paterno and I am reluctant to judge him until all the facts about what happened at PSU are known. </p>
<p>But let us analyze the two coaches used to name the trophy:</p>
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<li><p>Stagg: He was a great coach, but the program he coached at has not been a member of the Big 10 since 1946. Stagg himself stopped coaching at Chicago in 1933. </p></li>
<li><p>Paterno: He was still coaching. How do you name a trophy after a coach who could still win it?! Heck, had he still been coach at PSU, he could have won his own trophy this year. Besides, although he is the winningest coach in the history of the game, his program was part of the Big 10 for only 17 of hos 45+ years as head coach.</p></li>
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<p>Personally, I think the trophy should have been named after coaches Hoody Hayes and Bo Schembechler. Both coached in current Big 10 programs for 20 or more years and both coached in modern times. Coaches like Fileding Yost and Bernie Bierman were great, but they also coached way too long ago.</p>
<p>^^^Woody, like Paterno, left Ohio State disgraced. Bo bowed out gracefully before he overstayed his welcome.</p>
<p>You cannot compare Hayes’ departure to that of Paterno. Hayes was fired for his foul temper, not for allegedly covering up pedophile activity. Woody may have been moody, but his legacy lives on.</p>
<p>Guys, the other side of the story is now starting to be voiced. </p>
<p>Interesting that Sandusky says McQueary is lying and Paterno never said anything to him…</p>
<p>Alex, regarding the naming, isn’t it a Legend and a Leader? Hard to be a leader when you aren’t active.</p>
<p>UCB, I don’t think the trophy’s name needed to be quite so literal.</p>
<p>Tristan Ludlow Trophy sounds appropriate.</p>
<p>Hehe! That would certainly take care of the Legends part. For the Leaders part, I think a Wolverine ought to fit the bill…we are the “Leaders and the Best” after all! It is settled then, the Ludlow Schembechler trophy it is. ;)</p>
<p>“Hayes was fired for his foul temper, not for allegedly covering up pedophile activity”</p>
<p>It was a bit worse than that. He assaulted a player on an opposing team. He also hit a cameraman earlier that same year.</p>
<p>rjk, I am familiar with the incident, but like I said, his actions cannot be labeled as “evil” or a cover-up for “evil” activity. The man had a bad temper, but he was a honest and talented coach. Athletes and coaches do dumb things like the rest of us. Zinedine Zidane is arguably the best soccer player of all time (certainly one of the top 5), but his last play of his career was a head-butt! Granted it was an Italian meatball that he head-butted, but it was still a dumb move on his part. It does not change the fact that he was one of the greatest players ever. One dumb move on part of a coach or player does not negate a great career.</p>
<p>^^^He had a long history of temper tantrums and unsportsman like behavior Alexandre. I am not saying he wasn’t a great coach, of course he was, rather that his name should never be on a B1G trophy for winning a championship.</p>
<p>[Bo</a> and Woody - YouTube](<a href=“- YouTube”>- YouTube)</p>
<p>Bo, Hayes, Hoke, et al. are all the same - Ohioans!! :p</p>
<p>For me what Hayes did was wrong BUT it’s a parking ticket compared to the PSU situation. It was heated anger in the moment–not some long-term crime and cover-up. I can easily forgive Woody and welcome him back as a BIG legend who made a mistake. What PSU did was not a “mistake”.</p>
<p>What Barrons said.</p>