Big Ten Expansion

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<p>Looks like the Big Ten is looking to expand again:
<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2950700%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2950700&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>What team do you guys think they're most likely to add?</p>

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<p>Caltech :D Go Caltech football. w0000000000t</p>

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<p>But there's already the Big Twelve! What are they gonna call themselves?!?</p>

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<p>the Bigg(er) Ten.</p>

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<p>Keep the name. It's wrong now anyway.</p>

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<p>Yeah, don't they have 11 already?</p>

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<p>haha they have 11 already...another big 12 lol</p>

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<p>They were called the Big 10 when they had 11 teams, lol. There's already a big 12 conference.</p>

<p>Historical Fact: UChicago was part of the Big 10, but they were kicked out because they sucked.</p>

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Historical Fact: UChicago was part of the Big 10, but they were kicked out because they sucked.

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<p>Actually, UoC chose to leave b/c, as an institution, it decided to de-emphasize the big-revenue sports (UoC was pretty good for a good chunk of time – they were the original “Monsters of the Midway”), just as Northwestern did in the mid-70’s, which resulted in the “dark ages” (prior to that time, NU football was more than competitive; thank god, the administrations since that era have reversed course).</p>

<p>The usual suspects are schools within the region w/ a national audience (ND) or border states to B10 country (Mizzou, Rutgers, Syracuse, Maryland).</p>

<p>However, ND is the only one of these schools that really fits all of the requirements and it is unlikely that they will give up their independent status and TV contract (tho, ND may be able to make more $$ as a member of the B10 due to the B10 Network).</p>

<p>There have been a couple of sportswriters who have written that expansion may involve schools beyond the usual suspects (i.e. – significantly outside of B10 country) with Texas and Florida coming to mind. While either one is a long-shot, Texas seems to be the more realistic possibility.</p>

<p>Texas hasn’t exactly been happy with the B12 conference (esp. w/ regard to TV revenue) and the former B12 commish now works for the B10 Network.</p>

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<p>The first winner of the Heisman was a U of C guy. Jay Berwanger. If you don't believe me, stop by Ratner Gym and you'll see the trophy for yourself.</p>

<p>You'll also see footballs and basketballs announcing scores that nowadays are laughable.</p>

<p>"Chicago-- 24. Notre Dame-- 10."</p>

<p>"Chicago-- 60. Michigan-- 35."</p>

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<p>Steal Cornell into their conference!</p>

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The first winner of the Heisman was a U of C guy. Jay Berwanger. If you don't believe me, stop by Ratner Gym and you'll see the trophy for yourself.

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<p>It's also worth noting that UChicago is undefeated against Notre Dame in football.</p>

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<p>They are saying the short list is Norte Dame and Rutgers.</p>

<p>ND won't go because when they go to a bowl game they pocket the 13 million, instead of sharing it within the conference. </p>

<p>Rutgers would have to be crazy to go too, I mean, they are primed to go to bowl game almost every year now, with Miami, BC and VA Tech out of the conference, and if they go to the Big 10, they won't have a shot. </p>

<p>This topic has come up before, ever since Penn State joined, but I doubt anything will come of it.</p>

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There have been a couple of sportswriters who have written that expansion may involve schools beyond the usual suspects (i.e. – significantly outside of B10 country) with Texas and Florida coming to mind. While either one is a long-shot, Texas seems to be the more realistic possibility.

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<p>No way with Florida. They've been in the SEC since 1922. I've read that Rutgers or Syracuse are the teams that are being considered so that they can get a New York area audience for their conference. Notre Dame is a natural fit, but there is no way they are going to join (The Big 10 tried to convince them in 1999, but Notre Dame refused).</p>

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<p>Big 10 is really 11 schools... I wouldn't be surprised if they had to include:</p>

<p>Ohio University. They are just pummelling their division.</p>

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<p>Doesn't the Big 10 addition need to be located in the midwest?</p>

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ND won't go because when they go to a bowl game they pocket the 13 million, instead of sharing it within the conference.

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<p>That’s only if ND goes to a BCS bowl game which ND was lucky enough to do the past couple of years – this year, ND will be going to some mid-tier bowl (btw, when is ND going to WIN a bowl game? Going 0-9 in their last 9 bowl appearances).</p>

<p>While it is likely that ND will opt to remain independent – the finances of college FB/sports have changed significantly during the past 10 yrs – where ND, will probably, at the very least, give this some thought.</p>

<p>Besides the whole bowl pay-out amounts where payouts can vary btwn $13 mil or $2.5-6 mil (the B10 has ties with 8 bowls and often sends 2 teams to BCS bowls), ND makes $9 mil per year in their contract with NBC and less than $2 mil per year as their portion of the BE BB contract.</p>

<p>Otoh, each B10 team makes $9 mil on the B10’s FB contract w/ ABC/ESPN and more than $2 mil on BB with the B10’s contract with CBS/ESPN. In addition, with the B10 Network, each school is expected to see another $7-8 mil (maybe higher if a ND or Texas joins) – so that’s an additional $7-8 mil in guaranteed money.</p>

<p>On a financial basis – Texas has an even greater incentive since the B12’s television contract for FB is only a little more than HALF of that for the B10.</p>

<p>Nonetheless, they are all long-shots.</p>

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Doesn't the Big 10 addition need to be located in the midwest?

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<p>No - is Penn St. (PA) in the midwest? Is BC in the southeast (ACC)?</p>