<p>Do Pitt and Penn State have any quotas or is that 1/3 a natural happening for them that is consistent enough that they do not have to worry about going far over that? I know that with Michigan and UVA it is a delicate balance for them to maintain. </p>
<p>I know several PSU kids accepted from this area this year, and they all got merit money, and it is renewable for 4 years. I don’t know anyone who has been admitted to Schreyer yet, though from this board I can see that the acceptances have been issued, and I don’t know if those kids applied to the honors college much less get accepted to it. We don’t have many kids apply to PItt from here, but quite a few to PSU, and yes the numbers dipped by half. Some of the luster was off the school due to the Sandusky issue. I didn’t know that this was a trend overall, but having read about these new one time awards, apparently it hit the admissions hard, and my suspicion is that the OOSers are where a good part of the dip occurred in apps. Makes sense because for in state, scandal or no, PSU is still the best bang for the buck for a rah rah school. Not so for OOS kids who can look at OSU or UMD or other like schools if PSU doesn’t give a feel good glow. </p>
<p>I don’t believe Pitt, PSU, UM or the VA schools will go public. International students are includied in the OOS count, are they not? I know that Pitt seems to have an extraordinary number of international students and UBuffalo as well. In fact, if internationals are included in the OOS count, they probably make up almost all of it for UB.</p>