<p>Heyy i was just wondering what are the biggest party schools? (drinking, drugs etc.)</p>
<p>Guys? Its just a question because i want to know, not because i want to go party through high school.</p>
<p>All of them probably, it’s not like college where certain schools are known for party. As a matter of fact you will probably find that a higher sample of kids from any given BS be involved with drinking than in your public school, however you won’t find people who are serious drinkers or drink too much.</p>
<p>I don’t know about drugs, but my guess is you will find a higher number of kids who do marijuana every now and then (higher not necessarily the same as high absolute) but you find find any crackheads or kids who can’t live without pot.</p>
<p>Principal - you have a lot of opinions for someone who has never attended BS. I disagree with your statements. Of course you will find kids at BS who drink, smoke pot, dabble in drug use - they are teenagers after all. However, it is my experience that it is LESS prevelant than what you would find at public school.</p>
<p>PrincipalV- wow, you are really wrong. Many boarding schools have absolutley zero tolerance for drugs (expulsion on the first offense) and a one chance only policy, with counseling and random testing, for alcohol. THey have a huge legal responsibilty to students and their families. Public school students are free to do what they want outside of school hours (7:30-2:30). Honestly, I don’t know where you get some of your ideas.</p>
<p>I never said I was right… Notice the “think” or “guess”. Of course most schools have policies regarding drugs and alcohol, that doesn’t mean people will follow it. </p>
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This is a stupid thing to have an opinion over, I could care less either way. It was a guess, notice the difference. Moreover, you have attended (I believe, not sure though) SPS, so I will take your word for it but I get my experience from two different samples.</p>
<p>I found that when I lived we a quote and quote middle class neighborhood the overall usage of alcohol was far lower than in a much wealthier neighborhood. In BS, which has a generally more wealthy setting (most schools aren’t need blind, and even in Andover), it would be similar. What do you think happens at these “house parties”?</p>
<p>Statistics also show that those less educated who do drink tend to overdo it more than those more educated. That’s where I got the idea that the degree of usage would be less in a more intelligent environment… </p>
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Have you gone to BS? You seem to have a much stronger opinion than mine, and if I am right you haven’t been to BS (that’s why I take creative’s word for it)…</p>
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So does this institution we call government. Doesn’t seem like they are too effective in this whole war on underage drinking and drugs…</p>
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They have the same legal responsibilities to a family as does Compton High School, and are you going to tell me everyone there is drug free?</p>
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Actually, at the public school I went to before this year you could get disciplinary action (from the SCHOOL, independent of court) even if you got high/drunk after school hours. Hell, if you got in a major fight you could get reprimanded. </p>
<p>Right now I go to a day school very similar to a boarding school in environment (maybe not academic caliber, but high nonetheless), and the differences between this school and a regular school in terms of drug usage and all are similar to what I outlined.</p>
<p>Also, do you remember that thing at Milton last year… A bunch of people (like 60 or so) got drunk and some kid sent a photo to the principal (or someone) of these kids… It doesn’t matter if the BS has death penalty for kids caught doing this stuff, it’s going to happen. Idk about you, but I accept reality.</p>
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<p>What BS has random testing? Across the entire student population, or just for sports?</p>
<p>They don’t… After a kid sees you shooting up and tells the principal doesn’t count as “random”. For the truly random audit to have any effect it would be expensive, inconvenient, and against the “freedom with responsibility” thing a lot of thee BS have. Whereas even a random test here and there won’t make a difference, because the majority of the school won’t be doing these things on a regular basis anyway.</p>
<p>PrincipalV what the hell are you talking about? You are wrong in so many ways.
Kids that see other kids shooting up don’t generally tell the principal.
The biggest party schools do randomly run a drug dog through the rooms. The blood tests only happen if there is cause and the parents have given the school permission in writing.</p>
<p>I won’t even begin to answer you (as you have proven to get off topic numerous times, and don’t know what you are talking about the other 5%)…</p>
<p>There are plenty of cases when kids “report” other kids, Milton last year was an example.</p>
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Contrary to Biohelpmom’s idea that these happen randomly. Drug dogs aren’t really drug testing.</p>
<p>She thought that people randomly get tested for alcohol, and again that’s against the principle of freedom with responsibility, if it really is going to matter. I think the BS have made peace with something you are unable to understand: Drugs/alcohol happens. The best way to stop it is to provide an environment in which the student can learn what not to do. Which the BS gives.</p>
<p>Biohelpmom’s dystopia will only come if you go to Big Brother’s world, and even there (as Winston proved) people are going to go against the law. Please stop acting as if you just got introduced with this idea.</p>
<p>Woa- first of all, I have family members who are faculty/administrators at big NE boarding schools, including a few you professed interest in. I never said anything about “random” testing. That has never been a policy at any school I have been associated with. Students who are caught once (drinking) are usually put on a special kind of probation that involves counseling and testing. Students found in the presence of drugs may be asked to take a test as well. Not random at all.</p>
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I don’t disagree with that. However, in the first post, you used the word random, which paints the picture of a 1984 BS in my head. Thanks for clarifying though…</p>
<p>Random testing is for kids on probation. And now, I am done with this thread and probably this forum. Good luck to all of the 2010 applicants!</p>
<p>My school does random testing… They randomly test kids in certain circumstances that would mean higher drug use more frequently… They rarely check girls dorms for drugs and they don’t test girls as often. They test guys more. (I’m in the athletic dorm and we get tested the most). </p>
<p>They throw a test on you if they see homework slipping or something. It is based on hunches… It is almost random in nature. The hunches could be 100s of things.</p>
<p>ib – if what you are saying is true (and fif knows where you are at school and doubts it) that is an egregious violation of those student’s rights. In fact, if fif discovered that fif jr. of miss fif was being randomly tested (that is, without cause) he would yank them in a NY minute (after calling an attorney). fif knows of no other school with this policy.</p>
<p>Incidentally, fif also does not know of any significant boarding school in NE that has an “athletic dorm”.</p>
<p>IF what you are suggesting is true, then fif will steer any kid he knows away from a certain school on the Housatonic River.</p>
<p>Last spring, some Milton students posted pictures on Facebook of themselves drinking at off campus parties. Someone anonymously reported them. </p>
<p>[At</a> Milton Academy, threats of discipline fade after alcohol probe - The Boston Globe](<a href=“http://www.boston.com/news/education/k_12/articles/2009/03/23/at_milton_academy_scandal_then_restraint/]At”>http://www.boston.com/news/education/k_12/articles/2009/03/23/at_milton_academy_scandal_then_restraint/)</p>
<p>In general, it’s impossible to generalize “what boarding schools do.” Really very difficult, especially for students who aren’t attending boarding schools. Each school will have its own set of rules, which are distributed to students. The enforcement of those rules depends on the school’s head and staff. It’s best for students and parents to inform themselves of a school’s particular policies before accepting an offer of admission.</p>
<p>In general, my impression is that there is no tolerance for providing drugs or alcohol to others. Users might (depending on the school) be able to ask for counseling & help, but dealers are dealt with harshly.</p>
<p>Many of the policies in place at boarding schools are intended to forestall problems. The common rule forbidding anything from obscuring a full view of the room from the door is one such rule.</p>
<p>Some books cover the history of boarding schools and student behavior. I recommend Casualties of Privilege, Behind the Walls[/], and Perfectly Prep. </p>
<p>Biohelpmom, I hope you will remain on the forum.</p>
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Interesting… Until now I had thought that all students participating in drugs/alcohol got theirs from an outside source, outside of school. I never really would think that these students would deal within schools.</p>
<p>There’s a fine line between doing and dealing. Would you consider it dealing if, at a party, a kid pressures you into drinking? I think I would… Not sure though. And thanks for linking the Milton article, that was the one to which I was referring.</p>
<p>Anyone else get the feeling this is PV’s personal forum, for him to manipulate the facts, and bruise those who question his statements of mistruth?
Usually posters on here have some Prep School credentials whether inquiring parents, students, alumni, or in the trade. Are you a free lance newspaper reporter or what? Tell us who you are these days in this current form “PrincipalV”.</p>
<p>I think this guy is trying to restore his celebrity status before he was banned; and it looks like he figured that the best way to achieve that was get into fights and argue with everyone he could possbly argue with. I would just ignore him no matter what he says.</p>