<p>I was wondering which schools (below the Ivies because I probably will not go there) have the best programs for biochemistry?</p>
<p>Wash U, UC Berkeley... i think... someone back me up i might be thinking biomedical eng</p>
<p>i would want to know it too!!!</p>
<p>This is grad school so some schools were grad school only.
2 Stanford<br>
3 MIT<br>
4 Cal Berkeley<br>
5 Harvard<br>
6 Yale<br>
7 Cal Tech<br>
8 Wisconsin<br>
9 Cal San Diego<br>
10 Johns Hopkins<br>
11 Columbia<br>
12 Colorado<br>
13 Washington (St. Louis)<br>
14 UCLA<br>
15 Duke<br>
16 Penn<br>
17 Brandeis<br>
18 Washington<br>
22 Cornell<br>
23 Michigan<br>
24 Chicago<br>
25 Oregon<br>
26 North Carolina<br>
28 Utah<br>
29 Vanderbilt<br>
30 Northwestern</p>
<p>What is the basis of this list? It seems like it's pulled out of leftfield with no rhyme or reason. Well known LACs (Carleton, Reed, Grinnell, Bucknell, Oberlin, Colgate, Holy Cross) send more students to PhDs in Chemistry than at least Vanderbilt and Brandeis despite being less than half the size on average.</p>
<p>That is a well known study by a Texas Tech statistics professor called the NRC study.</p>
<p>As bobbobbob said, his list is for grad schools, but the OP is presumably looking for an undergraduate program. The Higher Education Data Sharing Consortium publishes undergraduate future PhD production data for Biological Sciences and Chemistry (and many other fields), so this may not be what the OP is looking for, but here are the top ten schools for the percentage of graduates who go on to earn a PhD in:</p>
<p>Biological Sciences: Reed, CalTech, Swarthmore, U Chicago, Kalamazoo, MIT, Earlham, Harvey Mudd, U Sciences Philadelphia, Grinnell</p>
<p>Chemistry: Harvey Mudd, Reed, CalTech, Wabash, Carelton, Grinnell, Wooster, Kalamazoo, Texas Lutheran, Bowdoin</p>
<p>Can it be concluded that the schools on both lists provide the best preparation for a PhD in biochemistry? I don't know, but if yes, does that mean they have the best programs for biochemistry? "Best" is always problematic; best for what purpose? Perhaps these lists are useful only for those who contemplate pursuing a PhD, but I suspect they are indicative of overall quality programs.</p>
<p>Accordig to USNEWs and World Report, Berkeley and UCSF</p>
<p>Yes, I recommend you go to UCSF as an undergraduate. ha</p>
<p>Vossron--some of those small schools may have 20 go on to get PhD's. Large schools may have 200. I don't think you can say the smaller is better because a higher % get PhD's. Small schools might just attract more (higher %) students with that interest while the large schools will have a broader range from immediate employment to Med school and PhD's. The Phd track often makes little economic sense and requires a particular mindset.</p>
<p>however if you want to do your own research, you will need a Phd</p>
<p>My daughter majored in bio but her roommate majored in biochem-at Reed- writing and publishing a thesis ( hers was 45 pages), is a big step towards preparing for the sort of work you will need to do in grad school.
( some of the titles for the biochem - molecular bio theses for the class of 2006)
*B-Arrestin 1 is a Putative Target of 17-B-Estradiol-Mediated Splice Site Regulation in MCF-7 Human Breast Cancer Cells</p>
<p>Investigation of the Kinetic Parameter of the Calf Spleen Purine Nucleoside Phosphorylase-Hypoxanthine Complex</p>
<p>Conformational Dynamics of the Bacillus Subtilis manganese Metalloregulatory Protein MntR</p>
<p>Metal Binding in ScaR: Mutation and Titration</p>
<p>31PNMR Studies of the Substrate Binding Stoichiometry of Orotidine 5'-monophosphate and -D-5-phosphoribosyl-1-pyrophosphate to Orotate Phosphoribosyltransferase from Saccharomyces Cerevisiae</p>
<p>Effects of T89D and Q96E Amino Acid Substitutions on QacR Protein-Drug Binding</p>
<p>Studies of T4 Lysozyme Structure by Site-Directed Fluorescence Labeling*</p>
<p>Gourman Report ranking for undergraduate biochemistry</p>
<p>Biochem from Gourman
Harvard
MIT
UC Berkeley
Wisconsin
Yale
UCLA
Cornell
UC San Diego
U Chicago
U Illinois
Columbia
U Michigan
U Penn
UC Davis
Brandeis
Northwestern
Princeton
U Iowa
Michigan State
Rice
Case Western
Purdue West Lafayette
Oregon State
NYU
U Oregon
Rutgers New Brunswick
SUNY Stony Brook
U Texas Austin
Iowa State
UC Riverside
Penn State University park
USC</p>
<p>Note that the Gourman Report (official title "Undergraduate Programs and Professional Programs in American and International Universities") doesn't even consider or include LACs, making it useless to those who do. For high school students who want ultimately to do research in biochem, it thus misses some of the schools which provide the best preparation for attaining that goal.</p>
<p>In some cases, the LACs actually have a higher # getting a Phd, not just a higher %. Also, seeing how many students go on to get a PhD doesn't mean it's the only or best option for other students in the program, but probably lends credence to the school, showing if so many students are able to get a PhD that the program is highly respected and there would be a lot of other employment options for them too.</p>