<p>Those joint degrees are weird, it's like a double major, it diludes your area of study, and those are very specific areas of study. Universities are just trying to market their majors.</p>
<p>There is a lot of overlap between med and BME, I think if you get an MD you can work as a BME, thats really looking ahead though...</p>
<p>joint MD/PhD programs are diluted? LOL.</p>
<p>eng_dude, its not might happen its a matter of time. You may think its not but nearly every engineer with an MBA who has been at a company for say 20 years is an executive of some sort. Unless they have horrible management and engineering skills, in which case they most likely don't have a job. All the older engineers I know with MBAs have an executive position.</p>
<p>riiiiiight.</p>
<p>Show me proof otherwise</p>
<p>C'mon now, Bigndude. Surely you know that it is impossible it is to "prove" a negative, right? Perhaps if you went through the management teams of the top Fortune 10000 companies you'd see the overwhelming majority don't have an engineering degree + MBA. Talk to ya next year when your done...</p>
<p>Engineering +MBA is a great thing and some with this combo will become execs, just don't expect it to automagically lead to the executive boardroom as you suggest.</p>
<p>to RHSstudent07, are you in California? because UCSD's BME seems pretty amazing. i'd bank it's one of the best, if not THE best in the state, and probably one of the top in the nation. for the money, if a CA student wanted to do BME, it couldnt get better for sure. for OOS...i dont know exactly how bad the tuition is, i've heard it's really bad so maybe that'd be a huge turnoff if you arent in state...but for whatever you pay, you'd still be getting a top notch education.</p>
<p>eng<em>dude. Here you go more CEO's have engineering degrees then any other degree >20% to be exact. <a href="http://content.spencerstuart.com/sswebsite/pdf/lib/Statistical">http://content.spencerstuart.com/sswebsite/pdf/lib/Statistical</a></em>Snapshot<em>of</em>Leading<em>CEOs</em>relB3.pdf<a href="Its%20on%20page%206">/url</a></p>
<p>If you read a little further it says even though more CEO's are engineers, most don't start out working in business relate fields, basically they are engineers first then they move into the CEO spot.</p>
<p>Doesn't mean anything. Even at face value, only 20% or so will become a CEO. Not exactly a guarantee of becoming an executive by any means. Thats an 80% "failure" rate right there....(although obviously there is more than one executive position)...You also may live in a very wealthy area where other executives live and you may be drawing conclusions based on an invalid sample.</p>
<p>How many executives are there in total? How many of them have engineering and MBA degrees? How many people have engineering and MBA degrees in total but are not considered executives? Do the math...I'd bet millions that the numbers won't be nearly as rosy as you would suggest. Don't get me wrong, as an engineering + MBA degree are both great and impressive degrees and I wouldn't dissuade ANYONE from doing such, I just think you have an overly optimistic viewpoint here.</p>
<p>Executive isn't just CEO. (as you edited) There are TONS of executive positions for seemingly stupid and useless things. Most companies have just as many executives as there are workers. Presidents, Vice-Presidents, chiefs of this and that, head of this and that, global support, the list goes on. With that many exective positions, like I said if you don't get one you obviously aren't good. Around where I live there are a bunch of big military contractors. In one of the companies where one of my cousins in an engineer and my father works there are about 300-400 or so executives with about 100 vice presidents alone of little branches. There are about 400 engineers both young and older working. The older ones are the lead engineers who head up whole departments for the particular section they are in. The young ones do the engineering. The older engineers who did good jobs with departments are the executives, and in this particular company most of the executives are engineers. </p>
<p>The fact of the matter is this, with an MBA and engineering degree you WILL be in a high up leadership position at some point in your carrer. Many times even without the MBA you will be.</p>
<p>Well, now that you've redefined executives on your own terms, I'd concur.</p>
<p>Dear phobos:</p>
<p>I'm from South Dakota, thanks though.</p>
<p>How is Rice University's bioengineering program?</p>
<p>similar question.
how is columbia biomedical engineering?
if I got into both cornell (biological and environmental engineering)and columbia, where would you go?
i have already decided to go to columbia, but just wondering</p>
<p>cornell actually has a biomed program. So the biological and env. engineering program you got into is different than their biomed program. I got into both columbia's and cornell's biomed program and i chose cornell's. Mainly because it fit my research interests.</p>
<p>Pippyvan, could you please say a little about Cornell's program? My d is interested in BME but we were under the impression that Cornell's program is a little different since it is biological engineering and the course work seems more geared toward food and ag. We'd be interested in your response. Also if anyone can comment on Columbia's program PLEASE respond. Thanks!</p>
<p>kschmidt, from what i can infer you are talking about undergraduate work? In which case, Cornell does not have an actual major called BME. They do however have bio and env engineering with an option to concentrate in BME. So yes, their program is more food and ag because they are not BME. </p>
<p>My earlier post was talking about Cornell's BME graduate program. They do offer M.ENG and PhDs in BME. For more information about graduate and undergraduate work in BME at Cornell you can visit <a href="http://www.bme.cornell.edu%5B/url%5D">http://www.bme.cornell.edu</a> There's a lot of good information there. </p>
<p>I'm not too familiar with COlumbia's program. But i got into their PhD program and visited a few months ago. I felt that Columbia's program did not have a strong concentration in medical devices like Cornell did, which I am interested in researching. However, both schools are very good at what they do.</p>
<p>Columbia's BME program is not ABET accredited (yet).</p>
<p>If you want to do a solid engineering study (not pre-med or pre-ibankers), Cornell would be a better place.</p>