<p>Here's an interesting chart on some acceptance rates for blacks at top universities.</p>
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<p>wow
we need more blacks in college</p>
<p>wow, that's crazy. If i was to go to harvey mudd i would be 1 of 5 black freshman on campus....1 of 5!! (not that i want to go to HM..but still)</p>
<p>that's just..."wow".</p>
<p>I was researching UC San Diego for a friend and stumbled on this shocker : 2008 enrollment , 52 Black (non hispanic) enrolled in a freshman class of 4,292.</p>
<p>Hurray for Amherst.</p>
<p>What shocks me is the high acceptance rates at schools like uva and u chicago!</p>
<p>yea, hopefully I can get into UVA</p>
<p>I really really want to go to JHU, but, coming from a country where the vast majority of people are black, I'm starting to wonder whether I will be able to adjust to being one of ~82 students out of over 1000 who are black.</p>
<p>I'm one of those 61 at ND. The sad part is how skewed our black freshmen class is; there are about 12 black guys who aren't athletes.</p>
<p>whoaaaa. Only like 1-2000 black applicants on average. And, out of those couple thousand only a hundred something were accepted/enrolled.</p>
<p>Whoa, 22 percent acceptance rate at Brown. And that's RD. I wonder what ED would be like!</p>
<p>Interesting data. List of universities with admit rate difference and the percentage of black applicants:</p>
<p>+20.8 Chicago (4.94%)
+15.1 MIT (4.37%)
+12.9 Tufts (4.81%)
+11.1 UVA (7.33%)
+9.2 Notre Dame (3.21%)
+8.8 Carnegie Mellon (4.89%)
+6.7 Georgetown (6.82%)
+6.3 Brown (6.11%)
+6.2 Northwestern (4.60%)
+5.5 Penn (8.50%)
+3.9 Rice (6.40%)
+2.7 Johns Hopkins (7.82%)
+0.4 Cornell (5.73%)
+0.4 Vanderbilt (7.50%)
-1.3 UNC Chapel Hill (11.9%)
-4.8 WUStL (7.60%)
-5.3 USC (7.87%)
-6.8 UCLA (5.09%)
-7.5 Berkeley (5.12%)
-9.3 Emory (17.5%)
-12.6 Wake Forest (9.34%)</p>
<p>17.5% Emory (-9.3)
11.9% UNC Chapel Hill (-1.3)
9.34% Wake Forest (-12.6)
8.50% Penn (+5.5)
7.87% USC (-5.30)
7.82% Johns Hopkins (+2.7)
7.60% WUStL (-4.8)
7.50% Vanderbilt (+0.4)
7.33% UVA (+11.1)
6.82% Georgetown (+6.7)
6.40% Rice (+3.9)
6.11% Brown (+6.3)
5.73% Cornell (+0.4)
5.12% Berkeley (-7.5)
5.09% UCLA (-6.8)
4.94% Chicago (+20.8)
4.89% Carnegie Mellon (+8.8)
4.81% Tufts (+12.9)
4.60% Northwestern (+6.2)
4.37% MIT (+15.1)
3.21% Notre Dame (+9.2)</p>
<p>List of LACs with admit rate difference and the percentage of black applicants:</p>
<p>+25.7 Bowdoin (4.23%)
+24 Amherst (5.80%)
+23.2 Bates (4.46%
+17.3 Haverford (6.95%)
+16.2 Middlebury (3.78%)
+16.2 Carleton (4.58%)
+16.2 Pomona (4.94%)
+13.7 Claremont McKenna (4.81%)
+12.6 Grinnell (4.27%)
+11.5 Swarthmore (8.90%)
+9.5 Colby (2.25%)
+9.2 Wellesley (7.80%)
+8.5 Vassar (6.97%)
+ 5.4 Wesleyan (8.90%)
+3 Hamilton (4.38%)
+3 Colgate (6.28%)
+1.5 Trinity (4.48%)
+1.5 Oberlin (7.61%)
-0.1 Washington & Lee (4.29%)
-0.2 Davidson (9.25%)
-2.1 Harvey Mudd (2.73%)
-3.4 Barnard (8.40%)
-6.5 Lafayette (6.65%)
-8.6 Macalester (6.96%)
-10.3 Bucknell (3.96%)
-11.3 Smith (12.6%)
-16.7 Bryn Mawr (13.6%)</p>
<p>13.6% Bryn Mawr (-16.7)
12.6% Smith (-11.3)
9.25% Davidson (-0.2)
8.90% Wesleyan (+ 5.4)
8.90% Swarthmore (+11.5)
8.40% Barnard (-3.4)
7.80% Wellesley (+9.2)
7.61% Oberlin (+1.5)
6.97% Vassar (+8.5)2.25% Colby (+9.5)
6.96% Macalester (-8.6)
6.95% Haverford (+17.3)
6.65% Lafayette (-6.5)
6.28% Colgate (+3)
5.80% Amherst (+24)
4.94% Pomona (+16.2)
4.81% Claremont McKenna (+13.7)
4.58% Carleton (+16.2)
4.48% Trinity (+1.5)
4.46% Bates (+23.2)
4.38% Hamilton (+3)
4.29% Washington & Lee (-0.1)
4.27% Grinnell (+12.6)
4.23% Bowdoin (+25.7)
3.96% Bucknell (-10.3)
3.78% Middlebury (+16.2)
2.73% Harvey Mudd (-2.1)</p>
<p>Oddly, differences in admit rates and the percentages of black applicants seem only loosely related.</p>
<p>They go into greater detail about various aspects concerning yield rates here:</p>
<p>Well. the numbers are kinda sad but I'm one of the ones that are going to U Chicago</p>
<p>I was kind of surprised that the number of applicants was so small. I mean only 1700 at Yale? I mean it is Yale, I figured that about 5,000 at least would have applied. And all the top Ivies have about 2,000 and I would wager that a large number of them are cross admits (as evidenced in the thread about AA acceptance where many qualified minorities applied to HYP and the like) so the actual number of qualified minorities must be abysmal if only so few even applied.</p>
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<p>Well yes, we can certainly discern using data from a variety of sources that the highest performing segment is proportionately small. That's one of the reasons colleges and universities have put so much effort into recruiting and scholarships. However, not everyone aspires to attend an Ivy League school. It's anecdotal, but all of my kids had (have) qualifying stats, but none applied to an Ivy. They do not want to go to school in that part of the country. There are lots of others that don''t apply as well for various other reasons. </p>
<p>Of course, no matter how you slice it though, you're right -- the number of qualifiers is still comparatively small.</p>
<p>Agree with FLVA. The kid had absolutely no interest in any Ivy nor any top CC school, and just a mere passing interest in U-Chicago. She is open to re-thinking the options for grad school.</p>
<p>It is intereting that we have a very small pool of AA students who can be admitted and excel at these schools, but when everything is factored in (location, quality of life, etc.), the schools are not desirable.</p>
<p>To each his own..</p>
<p>Very true aboout the lack of desirability these schools have to alot of AA students. I haven't applied to any Ivys. I attend a prep school with many very qualified black students and I don't know any who actually applied to an Ivy. Those who are even considering it mentioned it is mostly because they like the prestige but really don't like the school. There is really a strong interest for top HBCUs though. It seems that most at my school are looking for the opposite of prep school, which would definitely not be an Ivy. Yet most are considering pursuing Ivys, for grad school, after the cultural experience of an HBCU.</p>
<p>To be quite honest i initally picked the University of Texas at Austin as the school i wanted to go to bc well it is AWESOME. But then my teacher recommended that I should try to apply to other top schools so I gave it a shot, and when I saw the financial aid it made the decision easy. </p>
<p>FLVDAD, I know that many top students don't apply to these colleges, but I was just making a generalizing statement.</p>