<p>I appreciate BE's service by offering this information, but I strongly believe that the list should include more information and that the schools should not be numerically "ranked."</p>
<p>Which periodicals don't numerically rank the schools?</p>
<p>Can someone post the list? My computer won't let me access the website.</p>
<p>I got a press release today that we were put at #35. Here's the top ten...</p>
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<li>Florida A&M </li>
<li>Howard University in Washington, D </li>
<li>North Carolina A&T State University, Greensboro, NC</li>
<li>Harvard University, Cambridge, MA
5, Spelman College, Atlanta, GA</li>
<li>Hampton University, Hampton, VA</li>
<li>Stanford University, Stanford, CA</li>
<li>Columbia University, New York, NY</li>
<li>University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, PA</li>
<li>Wesleyan University, Middletown, CT.</li>
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<p>Yale is not in top 10, that is surprising.......</p>
<p>I don't want to start an argument purely based on subjective opinions, but can the editors at BE explain why a school such as North Carolina Central University was not highly regarded by them? Even conservatives in higher education (none other than Mike Adams, ugh!!) say that NCCU is the only UNC system member that's maintains a strong liberal arts foundation. And NCCU has received $$ for a new Bio-science center (and for a new law school building also).</p>
<p>And the faculty at NCCU has excellent credentials.</p>
<p>The methodology behind the report is openly available. The "editors at BE" don't make up the ranking -- they choose the criteria that determine the ranking. A lot of well-regarded schools, most notably Morehouse, did quite poorly because their black graduation rates are low (in Morehouse's case, under 50%). I don't know the data for NCCU, but I wouldn't be surprised if grad rate were a factor.</p>
<p>What's your point, Hanna? No one said BE concocted its ranking out of whole cloth.</p>
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The list was derived using the following variables: black student graduation rate; average survey score for the school's academic environment; average survey score for the school's social environment; total black undergraduate enrollment; black undergraduate students as a percentage of total undergraduates (credit for this variable was capped at 50% for HBCUs); and ranking on the 2004 BE Top Colleges list.
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<p>Problem is that grad rate is heavily influenced by other factors - my money, every time, is on the kid whose parents have more money; who is healthy; who is young and has no other responsibilities; and whose parents are college grads. I imagine that NCCU does very well with the kids (or adults!) that it is given, and that those students lack many of the family and social resources of Harvard kids. All of the collegiate support in the world cannot change real-world obligations.</p>
<p>Lakewashington said:</p>
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<p>What's your point, Hanna? No one said BE concocted its ranking out of whole cloth.<</p>
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<p>You kinda did. You asked, whether "BE can explain why..." That implies that something about the results didn't make sense.</p>
<p>Not to be persnickety, but...</p>
<p>It's 'I imply, you infer."</p>
<p>My opinion is that the evaluations of the schools are incomplete.</p>
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<p>Not ot be persnickety, but...It's 'I imply, you infer."<</p>
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<p>You weren't being persnickety, you were being impertinent.</p>