<p>Hey so Im just curious as the the opinion of the masses as to what you guys think my chances as a black/native american male at the ivies with an ACT score of 31 and a GPA of 3.6 (unweighted). More specifically I applied to Penn, Dartmouth, and Cornell. Thans in advance.</p>
<p>Your scores and GPA aren’t really high enough to be at the standard Ivy level, despite your urm… ethnic under-representation. But you haven’t posted any of your ECs and other stuff, so it’s pretty much impossible for us to decide.</p>
<p>^Agreed 10char.</p>
<p>I agree with CalvinTBOD; We need more info. How rigourous was your course load? How many APs/Honors did you take? Awards? ECs? Community Service? Essays? Recs? etc. But right now, based on your GPA and AcT score I think you may have a decent chance.</p>
<p>Oh right yeah my bad guys…well im all league and all county in track and field, as well as the team captain. I am an editor for the school newspaper, I am part of the debate team, and the table tennis club. I am also a leader in my youth group which I have been a part of for about ten years now and have completed A TON of hours of community service. Oh and I played a year of varsity basketball. I have taken three ap’s, two college level courses. And so many honors classes I can’t stand it lol. I am a great writer. Got a 5 on AP lang and a 11 on ACT writing. If that helps with the essays. I just moved to my school so idk about my recs really, I think they were good?</p>
<p>wat about class rank? and how many ap’s does your school offer?</p>
<p>Our school doesnt measure class rank for whatever reason. And I am going to venture to say 11-15. This is only my second year there though.</p>
<p>I would say that you have a great chance to any school just on the basis of your urm status. affirmative action sux. haha</p>
<p>in at all of em</p>
<p>haha i do not think those last comments are incredibly realistic. The thing is, I know of some blacks (although few) with higher statistics that have not gotten into HYP and things but that is about it. There have been black that I know high GPA’s and really low test scores that have gotten into Cornell. So idk, I am just looking for some insight.</p>
<p>No chance. Despite your ethnicity, your grades aren’t even near the ballpark for ivies. MAYBE cornell with a lot of luck.</p>
<p>I believe you have a very strong chance.
What’s the breakdown of your ACTs?
And have you taken any SAT IIs?</p>
<p>ummm the average GPA at most of the ivies i am applying to i believe are like 3.8-3.9. Plus the 25th to 75 percentile ACT scores at those schools are roughly 29-34. I think a lot of people have inflated ideas of Ivy league test scores because on forums such as this they only get a sense of the highest achieving demographic. and this is my unweighted GPA. So I think that to say I have no chance is pushing it. Plus I’ve had a failry difficult course load. My ACT breakdown goes as follows: 26 english (ew) 34 reading 33 Math 30 Science and 11 on writing. giving me a 28 combined english/writing. 740 us history and 620 Lit (tanked it lol)</p>
<p>IMO, if the admissions committees have a regional representative with a good feel for your high school’s academic gravitas and are confident that your prep is sufficient to handle the course work, then you have a reasonable chance at any of these three ivies. </p>
<p>I recall reading in the Princeton admissions pages, that they (as well as other elite schools) add 5 points to the ACT score for African Americans when calculating academic preparedness. So it is certainly not beyond reason to envision you could pass the academic hurdle and move to the “fit and contribution” phase where you will be judged by your interviews, essays, recs, etc . This is where the adcoms “feel” you as a fit for their university and see what you uniquely offer to the campus. This is likely where you will sink or swim with all the non-urms, and not the test scores. So with some impressive essays, glowing recs, and distinguishing EC’s you are certainly in the running IMO. Good luck!</p>
<p>Thanks Desperatu!</p>