<p>Hey everyone! I have been wondering this and I think this is a good place to get the anwser to my question. I know that Boarding Schools or College Prep. Schools is where most of the people who get into the Ivies go for highschool. Now, I also know that the Ivies like to take top 5% of the class. Wouldn't it be a lot harder to get in top 5% at the private school/boarding school since everyone is so smart. So, is it better ( if you want to get into a good school ) to go to a private/boarding or public high school. This may be adumb question, but I was just checking for an anwser, Thanks. =)</p>
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<p>Firstly your statement above is false. Secondly there are more factors to boarding/prep schools and gaining admission to IVY than just top 5%. Development, legacy, quality of course work at the prep school, plus all other factors of college admission. URM, geographic location, athletic, other significant interesting facts. Lots more than you ask. </p>
<p>Boarding school is a great experience and worth it whether you follow up with IVY or some other choice. Good Luck</p>
<p>Most prep schools do not calculate class rank
My son's does not. On the school profile that accompanies a transcript from his school they report the class's average GPA but they don't put the individual student's GPA on their transcript as they feel it is "distracting'</p>
<p>They leave it up to the specific college to calculate GPA as they wish--weighted/unweighted including or not including +/- etc</p>
<p>ivy's and top schools are pretty lenient on grades if you go to a top prep school. top colleges know these schools have top competition.</p>
<p>And yet, majority of people in ivy are from public schools.
As to decision, it depends on schools. I'd rather prefer public to boarding because I'd like to stay with my parents :)</p>
<p>The % of students going to ivy universities in prep schools, is much more higher than the vast majority of public schools.</p>
<p>correct, over the last 4 year period, Andover has enrolled about 40% of their students at Ivy League schools.</p>
<p>Yes but of the students in ivy schools like 70 or something percent are from public. and yes a lot of ppl in the really good prep schools go to ivies but theyre in the very top percent of the class and trust me its incredibly hard to be at the top of a class at Andover or Exeter, etc. Lastly I dont think at this age you should set ur goal for ivies only. Why the ivies? because they're really good? so are a lot of other schools. Stanford, Duke, MIT, and a bunch of a m a z i n g liberal arts colleges, etc. o and jonathon k. ur like the epitomy of all that i hate. i thought u should know.</p>
<p>"correct, over the last 4 year period, Andover has enrolled about 40% of their students at Ivy League schools."</p>
<p>40 % seems too high. I believe it is about 30%. </p>
<p>but do not be fooled by the number. Only a few of them get into Ivys (especially HPY) by merit. Majority of them get into Ivys with help of legacy or urm.</p>
<p>exactly...</p>
<p>Then I guess I will just stay at a public high school. =)</p>
<p>Two things:</p>
<p>1). Yes, 40% is a little high. It's around 33-35% according to <a href="http://www.prepreview.com%5B/url%5D">www.prepreview.com</a></p>
<p>2). While there is a higher percentage of public school students at the Ivies than private school students, the number is still extremely disproportional in favor of private schools when one compares the overall amount of students enrolled in public vs. private schools in America. </p>
<p>3). While there is an unusually high number of legacies at elite preps, a lot of them who get into the top schools would have gotten in there anyway, legacy or not, especially if they got into their high school by merit (i.e. no legacy connections). Despite all this however, please don't believe that "Only a few get into the Ivys by merit." Consider, for example, the vast number of cross-admits : even if student A is a giant Yale legacy (and only a Yale legacy), if student A gets into Princeton he does so by merit, and there are plenty of examples of such things happening at prep schools. Actually, it's quite funny that bring this up, because a classmate of mine with a huge Princeton connection is going to Harvard next year after being rejected from his parent's alma mater. Colleges are funny sometimes, no?</p>
<p>xGods_Favoritex,</p>
<p>The admission stats to HPY in my kid's school(a small competitive prep) last 4 years indicate "Only a few get into the Ivys by merit." This year, 14 graduates will go to HPY. Only 3 of them were admitted purely by merit.</p>
<p>If one wants to get into HPY without help of legay or urm, one has to be in the very top in these competitive prep schools.</p>
<p>Thank you all for your anwsers. =)</p>
<p>Prepreview is a bit behind on their stats. Currently there are about 11 schools all bunched up for ivy/Mit/Satnford matrics. The % is from 25-30%. What may be more significant is the much smaller pool in bs versus public school. Although the ivies may have more publis school students by pure numbers, they come from a very very large pool compared to the boardingschool crowd. If we can all get past the "halo effect", I think we would find some quite amazing schools/education to be had outside the "Ivy League".</p>
<p>Grades, etc, and the 4.0 GPA start to fall apart at these top schools. Especially when you are held to the highest standards, and by these standards I mean the curve in math class is set by the girl who makes USAMO or there is a competetive applications just to ENTER the research classes, from which almost everyone wins in siemens, etc. However, most ppl still get good grades, and many top tier schools acknowledge the difficulty of these schools. </p>
<p>And don't get to excited about "getting in through merit." Very few people in life get through all the way by sheer merit (hat's off to them). It's a game you have to play, forming connections, getting contacts, and knowing who is who.</p>
<p>sagar, your'e absolutely correct about the grades. I keep asking myself the following question........Are you sure the colleges/unis understand the grading differences at various schools.</p>
<p>Yes, my gpa would be about 3.2(87 average) at the prep school i go to. However, I managed acceptances into notre dame, michigan, and emory. It is a general notion here that if you can keep a 90 average(~top 30%) or above, you are guaranteed at least one acceptance into an ivy.</p>
<p>Well that's a tough topic prepparent. It depends on your school. HYPSM recognizes my school I know, but it really depends. </p>
<p>Most colleges will understand the grading system to a pretty good extent. Many kids apply from each highschool, esp from boarding schools, so the school gains a fairly good understanding of how said school is. </p>
<p>IMO, Boarding schools are a risk for HYPSM admission if you aren't willing to work hard. Colleges expect that you nearly max out the things given to you. If you go to a very prestigious HS but keep a low key, dull life and sit in the bottom 50%, I would doubt Ivy league admisssions. These schools give a tons of opportunity to you. Take advantage of it, or you'll look bad.</p>
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Only a few of them get into Ivys (especially HPY) by merit. Majority of them get into Ivys with help of legacy or urm.
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<p>This is wildly inaccurate.</p>