Bombing AP's

<p>Megblum - You don't have to "hide" your AP scores. They should not be sent to the colleges to which you're applying, (so check your transcript, as above poster recommends) but only sent to the one where you finally enroll so you can get credit for those great 5s in history and bio, if your college gives credit for them.
Now, if you want to self-report your two 5s to the colleges where you're applying because you think they might help in admissions, put them down in either the boxes where they ask for them, or anyplace they ask for "other info" if there is no specific place on the app. These scores are optional information, and not required. Therefore, it's your decision which AP scores, if any, you choose to report.</p>

<p>Although I respect the reasoning of ucapplicant and his/her honestly, there is no requirement that AP scores be reported. Colleges do want to see SAT II scores, and until recently students were allowed to select which scores would be sent through score choice. (colleges didn't hold it against students if they declined to show all their scores. That was the PURPOSE of score choice.) Because of the administrative expenses involved, the CB discontinued score choice and all SAT scores will show up on the form that gets sent to the schools that require it. </p>

<p>My point is, that when score choice was available, students were not considered to be hiding things if they held back their worst scores and only sent the best. Since APs are not even required, it doesn't seem reasonable that schools would consider student to be hiding things if they only report their best.
They expect you to put your best foot forward. As long as what you do put down is accurate, you're good. (Now, it is possible that if you took Chem AP and did not report a score, they will assume that you either didn't take the test, or you didn't do well. But they won't hold the fact that you didn't report it against you.)</p>

<p>This thread is very unusual in the fact that many people are suggesting that you make sure the colleges know all the bad things about you. I don't think I've ever seen anything like this before.</p>

<p>The actual situation with AP classes is that they have gotten too popular. At one time, they were elite and meant to be on par with a college course. Now, Newsweek is ranking high schools by how many AP exams are taken with no consideration of what the scores are. AP courses have filtered down to inner city schools. If you have a great AP class, you will get a better grade than a terrible AP class with a mediocre or worse teacher. The terrible AP classes are starting to outnumber the great AP classes. In terms of colleges, there has been a lot of discussion about whether AP courses should be allowed to substitute for college credit. In terms of adcoms, AP scores were never meant to mean more than a single grade in a class.</p>

<p>If you have a bad AP score, I would no more feel obligated to report it than I would to write my essay on how I sometimes drink beer without my parents knowing it. There is no need for full disclosure. Keep this in mind later for job interviews.</p>

<p>Hmm, good point.</p>

<p>I wasn't aware that it was optional since they specifically dedicated space for it. Thanks A.S.A.P.</p>

<p>Only showing a positive side has its advantages, but at a price. You'll be among quite a few people that score high and do well all the time. I guess it's worth the shot if one thinks that they can vastly improve their performance in college. At least that's what I think.</p>

<p>Thanks A.S.A.P. I called my school to check and left a message with my counselor, but I am pretty sure my AP scores are not on my transcript. I appreciate the advice.</p>

<p>On a lighter note: I just found out that a friend of mine who was in the same useless AP Chem class I was in got a 5 (he studied like crazy). Sigh. Oh well, I'm happy for him.</p>

<p>Funk, AP's are college level studies and you said you don't do well in them, like failing 3 out of 4, it would be a fair indicator of how well you do once you get into college. I think there is more to: should I report these scores/courses or not, like examining your educational goals and the best schools that will help you realize them. It may or may not mean the schools you mentioned.</p>

<p>thank you for all your advice. but i want to say that although i failed 3/4 tests, it was not because of the poor teaching of the class alone, but also my laziness. Only recently had I realized that AP scores were quite important, and I regret not studying for them as much as I should have. Having said that, I had terrible teachers for all 3 of my AP classes, and not one of them actually taught me anything, I am surprised i even got 2's on the chemistry and history after the class. I think I'm going to go with the honest approach and show all my scores. Whatever happens, in the end it's my fault I guess. Hopefully my AP scores won't be the sole reason for being rejected, if I do get rejected, that is, which at this rate seems highly possible. Thanks Again, anymore advice would be appreciated.</p>

<p>yourworld: Some of people on CC probably go to good high schools. There are some really horrible high schools where it is very difficult to learn enough in a class to do well on the SAT's or AP exams. Calling a class an AP class doesn't make it one. I'm speaking as a parent, and my S basically took at least a third of his classes on a self-study basis with my help. It is a little discouraging on CC which some of the people put down other people for not doing well on AP exams. It isn't a level playing field.</p>

<p>funk, I like your attitude, even tho yur given w less. Work hard and see what happens. I think yur going to be fine wherever you go to school.</p>

<p>funkmasta, why would you show your scores when they are not asked for, when you apply for a job are you going to list all your faults even if they don't ask. That is not being dishonest it is showing your strengths. If everyone else showed their AP tests then it would level the playing field .</p>

<p>i skimmed through the UC apps and I could have swore I saw a part where they asked for AP scores, that's why. maybe I'm seeing things. If they don't ask for it, cool, I don't have to worry about it anymore.</p>

<p>They do have a section specifically dediced to AP exams taken, scores, and planned exams. But according to dufus - it isn't mandatory. I haven't seen anywhere that says it isn't though.</p>

<p>I have not seen a school that requires that the AP score report from the College Board be sent to them. I've said this a number of times on CC and nobody has ever contradicted me. Having said that, there may be a college that does.</p>

<p>If it is on the application form, that is a different matter.</p>

<p>Yep - didn't say it had to be an official score report.</p>

<p>But it sure is part of the test scores section on the UC application form.</p>

<p>and it probably said that you have to list ALL of the scores?</p>

<p>Yeahhhhhh!</p>