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<p>stop trollin yo</p>
<p>i was surrounded by people who used adderral in college although i never took any.</p>
<p>Adderal is not a substitute for talent. It makes up for a lack of sleep, or rather,the time wasted sleeping.</p>
<p>Paul Erdős</p>
<p>Paul erdos is the ****, too bad he cheated on all that math cuz of those damn amphetamines.</p>
<p>This has been going on for a really long time. At my school, it’s weird though… each pill sells for $4 or $8, but it isn’t the studiers who buy them. I’m not sure who’s into it (at the high school level), but it isn’t the top students.</p>
<p>There is no long term substitute for good eating, exercise, and sleeping habits. In the short term I recommend chocolate covered espresso beans and coffee. Using amphetamines can be disastrous for some…you are taking your chances… is it worth it for a grade? When will it stop, especially if you are in premed and then med school and then a resident? I have seen addiction first hand and it ain’t pretty. Getting busted, for all of this involves illegal activity, would certainly put a damper on one’s professional aspirations.</p>
<p>“I have a feeling people morally opposed to them major in things like fashion design and/or don’t have jobs/internships in addition to classes.”</p>
<p>Or maybe they actually have morals.</p>
<p>And I guess it’s pointless to note that using such drugs w/o a prescription is criminal. Yeah, I know: who cares, as long as it helps me cheat the system?</p>
<p>Or maybe they actually have respect for their bodies and their brains.</p>
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<p>Illegality doesn’t make something immoral.</p>
<p>“Illegality doesn’t make something immoral.”</p>
<p>But choosing to violate the law provides others with an indication of your moral or ethical makeup. There are good reasons to strive to be a nation of laws, even if we disagree with some. (I’m not counting cases such as civil disobedience to protest injustice.)</p>
<p>So if I jaywalk, I have questionable ethics?</p>
<p>It really isn’t morally correct to be on these drugs, and it feeds into a positive feedback loop: the more people taking adderall, the more competeive people become and so the more adderall people need to compete. Nor is it fair to those who wish not to take adderall, as mentioned before, as it is just an aid for those who like partying more than studying (Read: those who should not be in college). We should discourage competition like this, its killing our generation and feeding into a very ignorant mindset that life SHOULD be dog eat dog.</p>
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To be honest, this is kind of how it strikes me too. I’d actually heard about adderall first through lurking on this forum during high school… when I got to UCSB, it didn’t take long for me to come across some people who seemed to use it fairly regularly. The feeling I got was that people used it to kind of “switch gears” between whatever it is that they do in their free time and when they’re doing schoolwork.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, I don’t like it because I’d have to compete with whoever is taking these kinds of stimulants, and ultimately, I’m going to have to put more time into my currently not-totally-efficient studying to stay competitive. Realistically, I think I’d just find myself on less appealing parts of test curves and chalk it up to other people just being plain smarter than me. I doubt that use of adderall is that widespread, though.</p>
<p>One problem with adderall and co is that we think that they are quite “clean”, they don’t have that dirty street image, they come straight from the drug store…</p>
<p>I was tempted, too, and I gave in.
I tried it (double major, finals’ week,…), and it really helped me to focus (I just studied. And studied. And studied.), but it totally turned me into a robot (Do I want a chicken sandwich? I don’t know…), and - which is fatal in maths - killed creativity.
I was able to work hard, study, memorize, write papers,… with it, but when trying to come up with an idea for a proof, I failed.</p>
<p>I’ve been told that (So it turns me into a robot - but what if I WANT to be a robot?), but I didn’t believe it until I tried it. </p>
<p>I’m not gonna do it again, because I don’t want to come dependent on them. What if I unlearn to focus?</p>
<p>I’ve done it. It works like a charm.</p>
<p>Once in Algebra there was this test that I had completely not studied for. I took an adderall and went in there and aced it. Not only did I get all the questions right, but I got the EXTRA CREDIT correct and received a 103 on the test. Even though I hadn’t studied or even listened that much in class, all of the little bits and pieces I had absorbed throughout the week came back, combined with the little knowledge I did have in math, and allowed me to ace it. Now given, this was Algebra I Honors, but say in an AP class or a frosh/soph college course, adderall + actually studying could probably allow you to get AT LEAST the vast majority, and probably ALL of the questions correct on a test.</p>
<p>I think I’ve seen this on 20/20 a while back.</p>
<p>And in what way is this unlike performance-enhancing drugs? Unless you use this drug for meds, this is cheating. You’re upping the level of competition by using chemicals that are enhancing (with potentially negative effects might I add) the productivity of the brain, thus making it harder for the people who actually study to do as well. If you absolutely need this drug to do well in college, then maybe you don’t belong there. Hmm, that was a bit harsh, but it bothers me so much when there are some people who actually take the effort to study but are not doing as well as the people who are not. I’m not sure if this drug is addictive or not, but I think people will start becoming dependent upon this drug. And then think of the consequences…
I’m glad that adderall doesn’t help with some things such as proof writing; some truly bright and hard-working individuals will continue to be recognized for their talents.</p>
<p>Yes adderall does work. For the people who say they use it as a crutch for regular studies are using it wrong. If you are going to go all out and use adderall then you better not be an undecided junior taking random liberal arts courses at your local college.</p>
<p>You better be a double engineering major with business classes and 20 ECs with 5 officer postions in a top school. (OBVIOUSLY that is an exaggeration but it will help bring my point across.)</p>
<p>Don’t use it to study for ONE test… unless you want to test it out. Use it when you have 4 test at once and need to help keep an organization going and a job. Don’t be a baby and depend on it for everything, I, personally, believe that’s when you become irresponsible. (and of course when you become ignorant to the consequences.)</p>
<p>There are safer alternatives to adderall, though.
Pheylethylamine (aka PEA) is another drug used to help you focus. It has the same effects as adderall, but it’s less intense with very few side effects.(almost none and no crash) This one is available to everyone and is pretty cheap. (its found in chocolate, but you can buy it as a supplement online.)</p>
<p>The only reason I’m mentioning PEA is because I really would rather people take something safer. Adderall has so many side effects that you have to ask yourself “Is it worth it?” And if you decide you’re going to do it (because you know no one can really stop you), then make it “worth it!”</p>
<p>Btw read post #17 by sugar_sweet111 and post #7 Balaylay</p>
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Well first of all, you still have to study, it just boosts your concentration by a lot from what I’ve heard. Second, everytime you drink something with caffeine, you are also altering your performance. Coffee improves short-term memory and speeds up reaction times by acting on the brain’s prefrontal cortex, so one could argue those who drink it are at an advantage. Do you consider that cheating as well? Either way, you’re placing something in your body to speed up performance. Many people don’t drink coffee for the taste, but the side effects. And you’re not making it harder for people who don’t use it to do well. They can study the material and do well on the test, it would just take them longer.</p>