<p>Back to talking about CA rather than MA. I heard recently at orientation that one way the CA public universities may work on cost savings is by booting out students that can’t handle the coursework. The taxpayers dime will give you one chance, and if you can’t cut it, they’ll let some other student who can in. I like that idea! Should have been kicking out underperforming students (no remedial education for multiple semesters) for the past 20 years imo.</p>
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<p>I hope so too…mmm evil.</p>
<p>^LOL same here :X</p>
<p>^^^It happens all the time anyway. Universities compete in many ways with each other.</p>
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Did I read it wrong? I thought the OP said California colleges and public schools are facing a $9B cut out of a total $15.5B budget. How much and what % of state appropriation are reduced from the UC budgets?</p>
<p>Yes, California schools will be cut by $9B out of the total $15.5b of cuts. $3B from K-12 and $6B from the college systems. (reversed?)</p>
<p>But this budget is contingent on the state to borrow money the California cities and towns, which will suck local funding from local K-12 budgets: a double hit. </p>
<p>The overall budget deficit is over $26B…smoke and mirrors/shifting the burden towns/accounting shinanigans still leave huge problems. This show’s not over by a long shot. </p>
<p>Texas has huge population growth, with out adequate growth of its university system. Maybe Texas could just buy Berkeley and ship it in trucks to…where? What do you think?</p>
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<p>[Professor</a> On California Budget Deal : NPR](<a href=“http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106894685]Professor”>Professor On California Budget Deal : NPR)</p>
<p>It’s a tough thing all around with no easy answers. I know several government and University employees who were just given 14-19 furlough days next year. Those families are trying to figure out how to live on less money. They are not high paid employees.
On the other hand I own a business in CA and we just can’t keep raising taxes.<br>
I have a feeling the CCs are going to get floods of students and will not be able to handle them all. I was with a group of pretty smart people last night and we were wondering about the students who are in CCs and were thinking that in two years they would move on to a UC. Will there be space for them?
My children are both now officially out of CA public schools. How long my business can stay in CA remains to be seen.</p>
<p>there are plenty of well off out-of-staters willing to foot the bill for UCB, UCLA, UCSD, and even UCSB. if they join the common app, recruit around the country, and lower the sky-high out-of-state standards, they could make a lot of money.</p>
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Haha…oh, so elite faculty does make a difference now? Hmm, I thought you people always argue its student body SAT scores and selectivity.</p>
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<p>There are plenty of well-off instaters who would do the same, but UC admissions favors low income, first gen kids (great public policy, but financially difficult).</p>
<p>"Did I read it wrong? I thought the OP said California colleges and public schools are facing a $9B cut out of a total $15.5B budget. How much and what % of state appropriation are reduced from the UC budgets? "</p>
<p>You read it completely wrong. The net change to the UC System will be around $800 Million out of state funding of over $4 Billion. or about 20%. Out of their (UC) TOTAL spending of around $19 Billion the cut melts down to 4%. The UC has many other revenues including tuition, research funds, and aux. enterprises including dorms, hospitals, sports, etc. Most of those areas have funds that can be tapped to cover the funding loss in the short term.</p>
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<p>LOL, LOLROTF-- laughing so hard to bring tears.</p>
<p>Texas could hardly handle the Free Speach movement when Berkeley was IN California. </p>
<p>Maybe T. Boone Pickens would trade California some wind power technology for it and move it to Oklahoma and re-name it Oklahoma State University at Weirdwater</p>
<p>What is California going to do about the federal prisoners’ suits? Perhaps any teacher let go by the schools and universities could get work in the prisons.</p>
<p>Now, Texas would be glad to take prisoners if we can execute them. We aren’t fully using our lethal injection system.</p>
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<p>dude, a university’s graduate departments are different from an undergraduate’s. my friends at cal have very, VERY limited access to the faculty that makes berkeley… well, berkeley. so of course faculty make a difference, but just 'cause they are there doesn’t back up how you try to categorically say berkeley > duke/penn (both of which already have strong faculty members, mind you). cal’s faculty combined with the resources/small classes that a private gives you would be a gold-mine for academics.</p>
<p>Conclusion from all this crap: UC is going down. lolol</p>
<p>Yeah- the UC System is absolutely fine. They do rake in quite a bit of money, especially from their very fantastic hospitals. 4% isn’t much, but they’ll probably cut all the wrong thins and people will make a big deal about it.
What I worry about is the community college system- the one SO many kids depend upon in this economy. Also, CalGrants pretty much doesn’t exist anymore, since incoming students won’t be getting any money. Finally, LAUSD needs its butt kicked so hard that it shatters into a million mini districts where students can actually be taught and teachers paid without the massive bureaucracy and under-the-table payments.</p>
<p>eatsalot, you miss my point. You’re saying you’d like your school to attract top profs from Cal…I just find it funny because many kids on this board have said top profs don’t matter because they rarely teach. Yet now it seems important. </p>
<p>The same faculty teach grads and undergrads at Cal. I had no problem with access to profs and research…perhaps it was because I was in a small major.</p>
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<p>Cal makes liberal use of TAs for undergraduate courses.</p>
<p>^ Just like all top research universities, Cal uses TAs to teach the discussion and lab portions of a course. Only once did I have a class at Cal that was fully taught by a graduate student - a linear algebra class during summer session.</p>
<p>I’d also note that Cal is a top graduate school - and all of the graduate student instructors are among the best young minds in their respective fields.</p>
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<p>sorry buddy, wrong there. my classes, labs, and discussions are lead by a prof.</p>