<p>looks like some lds member here…</p>
<p>is there a chance for non-mormon to convert after entering byu for example? if so, what takes to do that?</p>
<p>Ah, yes, getting sealed in the temple was what I meant (I actually didn’t know you could get married in the eyes of the church without getting sealed, so thanks for the info).</p>
<p>Even though I am not LDS but I find that I fit the rules very well! </p>
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<p>If like your green tea caffinated, you’re out of luck. Or least out of sync with the vast majority of students.</p>
<p>How do you feel about equal rights for women and gays/lesbians? That may not be such a good fit, or it might be, but you need to look into it.</p>
<p>Also, the population of the town it is located in, Provo, is nearly 90% Mormon and similiarly white.</p>
<p>If you like outdoor activities; mounting biking, camping, skiing, mounting climbing, etc, you will enjoy the place. Beautiful campus, close to the mountains, and very beautiful during winter (it snows a lot in Utah, so if you are not comfortable with snow, it might not be the place for you).</p>
<p>The education is top notch; check the schools that the faculty attended. A lot of the smart LDS professors want to live in an LDS environment, so most of them come back to teach after they get their graduate degrees. They also place a lot of their students in very top graduate programs. </p>
<p>The honor code is extremely important, if you can’t live any part of the honor ** DON’T GO THERE ** You will find a lot of students who break the honor code every day, but I will not tempt it.</p>
<p>The most important thing is that it is very cheap.</p>
<p>If you have BYU and Utah specific question, let me know. I am very familiar with the school.</p>
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<p>that’s the main reason i want to go there</p>
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<p>this is a little disappointing</p>
<p>if it will accept me that’s definitely a good thing because my stats are not great.</p>
<p>I’ll keep my eyes on this thread since BYU is on my medium list of schools at the moment…</p>
<p>The Engineering School is good. The students win a lof NSF for graduate school</p>
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<p>According to the BYU website, in the fall of 2009, there were 32,516 LDS students (98.5% of the student body), and 38 Islamic students. I’m not sure whether that’s “a fair number”… The site states that of 1.5% of the students who are not Mormon, there are over 25 different faiths represented (including some who “decline to state”).</p>
<p>Virtually every student from our local HS who is Mormon goes to BYU (some go to BYU-Idaho or Hawaii); it is what is expected. As folks on this thread have said, it is a strong and cohesive culture.</p>
<p>BTW: You should do some googling/checking. I’m pretty sure that tea is forbidden to Mormons, and that includes green tea (since it is a hot beverage, and has some caffeine).</p>
<p>I didn’t think it was the caffeine, but the tannic acid- they also eat a lot of chocolate- which has caffeine.
However, I believe there was a * revelation* so that now the WOW doesn’t actually specify, but just says " hot drinks".
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<p>PM me re: engineering if curious. </p>
<p>I grew up in Utah (as a Gentile) and loved it. However, if you aren’t willing to learn about/tolerate/adapt to Mormon culture, IMO, you probably wouldn’t be happy there. You don’t have convert or give up alcohol/coffee/etc or anything (if you go to BYU, the honor code, will, of course, apply, but I’m talking about Utah in general), but you do have to be willing to tolerate the idiosyncrasies and broad expectations of Mormon culture.
The people I knew who weren’t willing/able to do this generally hated living in Utah despite the positives (great outdoor recreation, beautiful country, the awesomeness of SLC, etc).</p>
<p>I know many LDS that did not want the BYU experience and instead attended Univ of Utah in SLC and were quite happy. Many LDS just eschew hot caffeinated beverages and drink lots of soda with caffeine.</p>
<p>Just what I was going to say: University of Utah! A great school. I have several friends (not LDS) who work there and love living in Salt Lake City. If you love the hiking and other outdoor opportunities, it might be just the place for you. </p>
<p>A little off topic on the thread of “going to BYU” - My five Utah friends were married when they and their spouses moved to Utah; SLC is probably probably not a great city for a not-LDS person who is looking for a like-minded spouse. There are other states with clusters of young people who enjoy the outdoors and are not drinkers/smokers/druggies.</p>
<p>Thanks for all the responses :)I sure going to apply to BYU, by the way, BYU vs U Minnesota Twin cities which one is better?Consider academically and job recruit?</p>
<p>^ Depends on the subject area. For engineering, Minnesota has a stronger reputation but BYU is still a good school.</p>
<p>FWIW - The population of Utah is only 50% LDS.</p>
<p>Non-LDS attending BYU, assuming the can comfortably live the honor code, find that campus is a very friendly place. In fact graduates send their kids there becuase they know the safe, values oriented campus is a place they want their kids to go as well. LDS do marry outside of their faith, but it is considered less preferred and not recommended. But, Many, many do. If you would consider that as a non-LDS, realize that they are very family oriented, and you would be encouraged and welcomed to participate in all church activities, from Sunday meetings to scouting to socializing. I have known non-LDS spouses who were so involved in the LDS that even members did not know they are not members.</p>
<p>As far as looking for diversity - that depends on how you define it. There is no campus anywhere where more students have been exposed to more cultures, countries and languages than BYU. That is becuase most males students serve mission, and many of them are served in other countries where they are totally immersed in the language and culture. And also, there are likely to be many international students who seek an LDS education. The international student association at BYU - Provo has over 2,000 members. <a href=“https://internationalservices.byu.edu/[/url]”>https://internationalservices.byu.edu/</a></p>
<p>What you won’t see at BYU is extremes of dress, behavior or language. The feel of the campus is academic and friendly and the social scene is very organized by the various campus and LDS(church) organizations. Non-LDS are welcomed to participate in all activities. </p>
<p>Traveling across campus you would see what I can only describe as a happier, healthier and nicer looking student body than you find in other schools and this is becuase of the LDS culture. The rebellious fringe culture is almost nonexistent. The area and the faith encourage physical fitness and health. The dress and behavior code along with the interest in finding a marriage mate all lend themselves to this.</p>
<p>As far as the comment of respecting women, I can not think of a campus safer for a young woman. Respect, I suppose, is in the eye of the beholder. It is a common misconception among non-LDS and particularly non-Christians, that women are somehow mistreated. I can tell you that this is complete false. </p>
<p>If you looked deeply, sure you’d find students cheating on tests, using drugs, sleeping around. But it is against the code and so those doing it are below the radar and not open about it. It does makes for positive peer pressure - the opposite of what freshman might experience at most schools.</p>
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While I know you intend this to be a selling point, I think it also sums up why BYU would be a poor choice for all but a tiny number of non-LDS students.</p>
<p>Where can you find a local LDS bishop? I am filling the application and it requires me to meet the bishop.</p>
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