<p>come on u trinity people!</p>
<p>I refuse! But I do hope I get in. :D</p>
<p>just to start...... someone tell me more about TRINITY!</p>
<p>I don't like it.</p>
<p>why don't you like it? i am an applicant and i am just curious~ haha</p>
<p>^ Trinity is very nice! I didn't apply, but I have been going to Trinity every sunday for a couple of years now. They lend out classrooms to let us use as a chinese school. Trinity is awesome. The campus is great and they have a very nice chapel that holds free concerts in the summer.</p>
<p>If anyone has any questions I can try to help answer them as my dad is and has been a professor there for ages.</p>
<p>whats all this about racial tension......? is trinity really struggling with racism? i realize discrimination exists at every college to a certian extent but come on trinity made the nytimes...... you don't see lafayette, hamilton, or other random LACs with articles regarding racial discrimination in campus...... so in your opinion is it really that severe? i am sorry asking all these questions.... but i am a future applicant.... i would really like to visit trinity but i live in oregon and i can't leave due to financial/personal reasons. i really appreciate your help thanks in advance!</p>
<p>I think it isn't just Trinity. Trinity may be more vulnerable to problems because it has had a lot of administrative turn-over recently as far as I can tell and that can mean that there's no firm, concerted, consistent, productive response to problems.</p>
<p>I wish that more current Trinity students would get online and start answering questions and helping applicants understand what's special about the place and why they love it. Trinity is going to be hurt by that article. Serious damage control is needed.</p>
<p>I am a student in Trinity. The way I see it, less than 10 of the students are blatantly giving a bad name to the entire student body of about 2200 students. It is not severe at all, and does not feel that way when I am on-campus.</p>
<p>Gogochris,</p>
<p>In response - what we have at Trinity is a fringe group to the far, far, far left who see racism everywhere they go. I'm on the left myself, but I can recognize that Trinity does not have a problem with racism to a greater extent than the average college. What happened was that a few months ago some drunkard wrote the N-word on a students whiteboard - everything kind of snowballed from there with people accusing everyone of racism for a few weeks (it was kinda fun - in a morbid sorta way). </p>
<p>Things have gotton a lot more quiet lately (probably because most of that far left element is abroad this term), but they did a lot of damage over what was an isolated incident. Ironically, while it was the african-american students who were initially outraged (with good reason) the mostly white far left used these incidents to push an agenda that was not related, the abolishment of fraternities. So basically this racism talk got so heated because a group of students wanted to use racism on campus to destroy the frats - I'll include a link to my article so anyone can read more. <a href="http://media.www.trinitytripod.com/media/storage/paper520/news/2006/12/12/News/Students.Express.AntiFrat.Sentiments.To.Trustees-2532671.shtml?sourcedomain=www.trinitytripod.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com%5B/url%5D">http://media.www.trinitytripod.com/media/storage/paper520/news/2006/12/12/News/Students.Express.AntiFrat.Sentiments.To.Trustees-2532671.shtml?sourcedomain=www.trinitytripod.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com</a></p>
<p>the racism aspect, i believe, has been blown way out of proportion.
If I were to characterize Trinity I would say,</p>
<p>academically challenging with a beautiful campus. And it does have some alcohol problem but therez plenty for one to do otherwise if s/he can work her way around...</p>
<p>racism issues are not being heard lately like jtvoyager said.... and tht's the point. racism suddenly grew to be a big issue and died down. and that outburst did much damage to Trinity's reputation.</p>
<p>well applicants, all i can say is if you are basing your view totally on the NYtimes article, you shouldn't. Talk to trinity students, visit the campus, do your research and find out. Trinity is, if anything, an underrated school.</p>
<p>see, when JTVoyager talks the way he talks, just brushing off as"fun in a morbid kind of way" what does that say of the rest of the community. You are a representing this community and all you can say is it was funny to blame everybody of racism. I'd like to hear from somebody who's a minority rather than somebody who's white talking about this issue. it seems that when minorities have an issue with race, whites want to brush it off as always with jokes and the usual nonsense. as Aaron56 state, visit the campus and do your research. sit in the cafeteria and look around, see if there are alot of interracial groups around if you'd like. ask the students about that issue.</p>
<p>D is black and hated her Trin visit (except for her meeting with Karla Spurlock-Evans). D reported racially insensitive remarks from applicant families and her tour guide. And at the end of D's interview, the interviewer didn't even offer D a card! This was markedly diff than the reception D rec'd at other, even more compet, schools. D definitely chalked it up to racism.</p>
<p>hmm.. so tour guides, interviewers, and even applicants... everyone's racist at trinity! i somehow find that hard to believe, seeing as i have enjoyed my time here as a 'non-white'! your D was either terribly unfortunate to have that atypical tour or... i dunno.. perhaps was lookin too hard for racially insensitive remarks when non were meant.</p>
<p>trinity does have its problems... but i doubt if there is any major hostility between racial groups, or i've been missin out on it.</p>
<p>yes aaron56 maybe we have been way too lucky...</p>
<p>forgive me if i sound "white" here for surely i do not mean to do that, rather I would like to be completely, but yes we do have a bunch of douchebags who just dont hav the least bit of courtesy as they write up n-words on boards like that. But then having three or forums about this matter really encourages them to come up and do more of such acts, precisely which was the case. We had a few forums and then the act was done again cuz the weirdos thought hey, i write 1 word.. the school has 4 forums.. lets do it again...</p>
<p>certainly the initial unity shown within the college to protest against these acts is laudable.. however at 1 point it just got the college in New York Times for all the wrong reasons. </p>
<p>From where I stand, the administrative body at Trinity really does a lot for minority groups. We have supplementary instructions classes for courses such as the natural sciences and math etc, all of which are free of cost and and developed with the prime intention to help minority students. We have a huge multicultural program etc. </p>
<p>I would request prospective students to not judge Trinity on the basis of a few stereotypical individuals. Seriously, they are not the ones that u would encounter at every other step at Trinity. I see students co-exist at my own dorm irrespective of race, studyin, partyin, breaking laws together and these are the ppl who u would really come across at most times.</p>
<p>Aaron, what is your non-white status, if you don't mind sharing? :)</p>
<p>Clearly D did not meet everyone at Trin. But D's reception at Trin was palpably diff than her visits to other schools. </p>
<p>D (a serious jock who has attended predom White prep day and boardding schs) is neither uncomfortable around Whites, nor does she "look for" racial insensitivity. And to suggest that, absent racism on the part of every individual at the school, there is not some climate, air or tenor of racial insensitivity is unreasonable. </p>
<p>As for judging the sch by stereotypical individuals, I don't know wheter the folks we met were "stereotypical, but the reality is that prospects get only a quick glimpse of a school before deciding whether it's worth further investigation. A school get only one chance to make a good first impression, and the guides and admiss officers are individuals the school has chosen as its public face. </p>
<p>D and other prospects can't live on campus for a week or a month to get a true sense of the culture. They base their decisions on what they observe and what they have heard/read about the institution. D was undeterred by Trin's reported racial probs (Princeton Rev and other guide book) and scheduled a tour/interview b/c Trin met her other criteria. In this case, however, the reports are consist w/ D's observations. </p>
<p>The school choses the guides and admiss officers to be as its public face. And a propsie ought to question whether a school where s/he gets a chilly reception from these front-office, meet and greet folks is the right place for him/her. Racist or not, feeling snubbed by the admissions staff is a valid reason for not investig a school further - - certainly as legit as serving sushi, the male/female, proximity to the beach, or how hot the girls/boys are - - all of which have been the subject of threads on thes boards.</p>
<p>I'm a white female, and I have to admit that while I think the recent media spotlight on Trinity's racism issues are sensationalized (the NYTimes article was frankly strange in some parts with its inaccuracy), racism does exist here. It bothers me when white students brush it all off as nothing, because I don't think you'd really sense it unless you were a minority. I also don't think it's limited to race. It's class, too. There are a lot of upper-class, white students here, and while most of them are respectful and tolerant, I've had some encounters with people who were either subtly or outright rude to me not based on my race, but on my economic status. And I'm lower-middle class. I'd never experienced that before.</p>
<p>I think it's worth mentioning that Trinity is supposedly one of the more homophobic colleges. While I haven't really noticed this, I have noticed that the number of GLBT students is limited, and I think it makes life tougher for those with a different sexual orientation to live here.</p>
<p>I would think that this sort of thing - racism, classism, sexism, homophobia, etc - happens to varying degrees at every college, because it happens all over America, and it's unavoidable, unfortuantely. I couldn't say if Trinity had more than the other liberal arts college. </p>
<p>That said, I do think that some of the racism claims have been blown up by the media. Especially the article stating there was a "white side" of the cafeteria? I think many minority students hang out together, and sit together in the cafeteria, but I'm fairly sure it's not because they feel pressure to be segregated, or because there is any "side" - just a little guess. I thought that aspect of the article was stupid.</p>
<p>I'd encourage any applicant to visit here, talk to the students, go to the cafeteria and see for yourself, read the newspaper, whatever. Find out what it's really like. Of course it's tough to get a real read of the place in just one day, but Trinity does have a lot to offer and believe it or not, has its share of tolerant, interesting, and friendly people. If I was not white, I'd probably be wary to come here after all the media attention of racism, but at the same time, it's keeping away students that Trinity should have, to diversify the campus and hopefully make the ignorant people more tolerant and respectful.</p>
<p>When a racial incident is reported, the response is often
- we're no worse than anyone else
- come see for yourself</p>
<p>We DID did visit the campus, D DID go to the cafeteria, she DID talk to students - - and D didn't like the "feel." Everyone who walks away saying, "not for me," isn't misinformed. </p>
<p>It hard to believe that a sch that places #4 on Princeton Rev's "little race/class interaction" list is as accommodating or comfortable for URMs as other campuses. And, as D recently remarked, regarding a Cath sch which reportedly was intolerant of alt lifestyles, "scratch a homophobe, find a racist/classist/misogynist."</p>
<p>Racist or racially insensitive incidents can occur anywhere. What's important is the majority community's response to such incidents.</p>