<p>I wonder why they ask for 9th grade grades then</p>
<p>Because you need to complete their requirements, a-g or something like that.</p>
<p>Firebird, If your rank for 10th and 11th is #1, then yes, you would be ELC. (As blue was intimating, you could still be ELC if you were several steps below that, because you stated in your opener that you had the most rigorous courseload, which = weighting for U.C. And a weighted "B" would even bring you up.)</p>
<p>Thus, if you get that ELC letter in early/mid fall, and later your app is juxtaposed with all the other apps to Berkeley & UCLA, you will have an advantage even for those reach U.C.'s, in that your weighted courses will not be capped, whereas those of others in the general appl. pool will be limited to a maximum of 8.</p>
<p>Epiphany has got it right, although I think you need to recompute your capped GPA--because you have to remember that the UC GPA only counts 10-11 years' grades. If you are #1 for those years, then the UC GPA should be closer to 4.2 to 4.3 for those years--not 3.8 to 4.05.</p>
<p>P.S. A 4.05 UC GPA is only average for UCSD, and is below average for UCLA and UC Berkeley. As Ephiphany points out, they won't even look at UC GPA and will not cap your courses as an ELC. In this case, as a #1, you should be a "lock" for all of these schools--especially with a 2100 to 2200 SAT I score (average SAT I scores of admitees at UCLA is 2005 and at UC Berkeley is 2009)</p>
<p>I have a question..How likely is it for a Valedictorian OOS to get into Berkeley...saying his SAT was in the high 1800s...</p>
<p>Calcruzer, no "although" clause, because I think both the OP and I understand it's 10th & 11th. (I was assuming it would be 4.2+, because of that.) :)</p>
<p>wow so I really need to be ELC then. So ELC means they get ur uncapped gpa. Reason my gpa is so high is i got A's in UC transferable courses which are weighed. Would these courses be included in the ELC rank process. If so, then yes, I'm ranked 1 for sure. my uc apped gpa is low because i got B's in ap classes when they dont even count as ap's because only 4 are weighted when i took 6. So it's like a B in a regular class.</p>
<p>at my school the college classes are seperate from the high school transcript
so whatever college class we take don't count into our GPA and can't (if they DO, they won't be "college classes" anymore).
I think most don't count it in your hs GPA (the one that colleges look at). Colleges consider what college classes you've taken, but i doubt they actually calculates it into your GPA.</p>
<p>and you said you never got any C's then how did you get 2.89 freshmen year?</p>
<p>What i know is that Berks and LA likes people that gets A's. Taking AP classes isn't a excuse for B? You can't blame the class.
so how many B's do you have total? from 10 the 11th grade?</p>
<p>They do look at freshman year grades; they don't, however, use them to calculate your GPA. College courses have no effect on your GPA, from what I've found, though you can send them your college transcript for consideration.</p>
<p>I got 2 C's freshman year. no c's for 10-11 grade. I have a total of around 11 B's for 10-11 grade. ( total of 54 semesters so 11 B's out of 54.) My school includes the college classes taken during the summer in the transcript and into our gpa. Uc's weight them, but I dunno if my school does on the transcript.</p>
<p>I'm surprised if your highschool combines college level classes into you h.s.level gpa, because usually that's not the way. Usually the college level classes are listed separately, with their own grades. Any h.s.level classses taken elsewhere (like on a college campus or distance learning) are listed as h.s courses, with grades, and sometimes added to the gpa by the school, sometimes not. (But U.C. will add h.s.level course grades to the GPA)</p>
<p>So lucky you! (if those were good grades)</p>
<p>Sons HS had some sort of program with the community college so that he got HS credit for math classes as well as college credit. The classes were taught on the HS campus by Community College instructors but anyone could enroll. So his grades were added to his GPA plus he could transfer them as college credits.</p>
<p>epiphany:</p>
<p>our HS will add a college class (& grade) to the transcript only if it's a required class for HS graduation.</p>
<p>firebird: If your HS puts the college class on your HS transcript, UC will consider it for elc calculation. If it is not on your transcript nor submitted by your GC, they will not use it.</p>
<p>ok wow I have already learnt so much from this thread! Thanks. And ELC rank calculations are ONLY for 10-11 grades and i have to be in the top 4 percent?</p>
<p>yes, elc is only Soph & Junior grades, and is defined as the top 4% plus ties. But, note, the UC performs the calculations, not your HS. ELC letters go out around Sept 1, on a rolling basis (rolling based upon when your HS submitted the data to UC).</p>
<p>Firebird, if you end up getting that elc letter, it's very important that you do exactly as it says with regard to application, using the coding (passwords, etc.) they will be snail-mailing you if you make the cut. So what I'm saying is, do not go ahead and apply online to U.C. until the ELC letters go out and you know your own determination. There will be enough time. Naturally, you will be using the same app as everyone else, but you want to make sure that your app is identified as an elc app.</p>
<p>(However, there's no harm in beginning working your responses to essay prompts in the meantime, and your statement of purpose, etc. Just do not submit anything yet.)</p>
<p>epiphany:</p>
<p>an acquaintance just retired as a Cal app reader, and she said elc designation made absolutely no difference to them. The reader could easily see the strong curriculum and string of A's, so it was on to the essays.....Of course, elc means automatic acceptance to Irvine and the "guarantee" schools, and bonus points in the UCSD review.</p>
<p>That's all I mean, blue. I don't mean that they read them differently. I am of course talking about offers of acceptance.</p>
<p>Yeah I just wanted my gpa to be uncapped when they evalute it. So if I am taking summer classes now.. that means that i would need to send the grades fast before sept 1st?</p>
<p>It's probably not necessary to pay for what's called a "rush" transcript from a college (usually more expensive). My D did not receive her ELC letter just after Sept. 1st. Hers was either late Sept. or early Oct. Unless the college says it takes 6+ weeks to send a transcript, I think you can count on a fast-enough turn around time for that grade to appear on, & be computed by, your high school. Just note the timing: record when you submitted transcript request to college; then obviously follow up at with h.s. at the appropriate tracking interval. Our h.s. is so small that we would probably just ask the registrar to give us a call or email us when she had updated that h.s. transcript. Yours sounds like it's bigger, but you can certainly be the "squeaky wheel that gets the grease" if that's less likely at your own h.s.</p>