<p>Oh wow! Yeah I'm taking about 11 UC approved courses and they all end august 17th and they'll be sent to my high school around august 24th... So when do UC schools calculate ELC? Will they include the summer courses I've taken in their calculation?</p>
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an acquaintance just retired as a Cal app reader, and she said elc designation made absolutely no difference to them. The reader could easily see the strong curriculum and string of A's, so it was on to the essays.....Of course, elc means automatic acceptance to Irvine and the "guarantee" schools, and bonus points in the UCSD review.
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Regardless of how ELC is considered officially, ELC applicants have a much higher admit rate at all the UCs (including Berkeley) than other UC-eligible applicants. I don't remember the exact numbers (or when I saw them, perhaps when I was applying two years ago) but I seem to remember the ELC admit-rate at both Berkeley and UCLA being around 70%, over 90% at UCSD, and basically perfect everywhere else.</p>
<p>of course elc admit rates are higher: the transcripts, by definition, are outstanding....but that IS the point.</p>
<p>Does anybody know if UC recalculations for ELC eligibility are somewhat similar to the ranks our school usually provides? My school is a typical large school, with around 700 per class. Class rank is 26/663 and 10-11th grade rank is 28/1350. To stay in top 4% it means that i would have to be around rank 54, and I'm wondering if dropping from 28 to 54 or higher is likely to happen if UC recalculates my gpa.</p>
<p>I just looked at the university of california's website for fall 2007 admit rates for ELC students.</p>
<p>Berkeley: 57.9%
UCLA: 58%
UCSD: 88.4%
UCD: 98.9%
UCI: 96.4%</p>
<p>odds seem good for ELC students</p>
<p>The point is, they don't need to know that you're ELC for you to get in; they can see the strength in the transcript itself.</p>
<p>but then they'll calculate my gpa capped :(</p>
<p>OMG I just found out that UC's don't cap anymore starting this year! They look at fully weighted gpa and unweighted gpa. So I guess it doesn't matter whether I'm ELC or not. Yay! So hat are the average fully weighted gpa's for the top 5 UC's ( not capped!) I want to see where I stand. :)</p>
<p>firebird: how did you find this out? this is good news for me, too.</p>
<p>The individual campuses often have "accepted Freshman student profile" links, or something approximating that title. That will often give average or mean UC-weighted GPA's, the accepted range for scores, and other factors. A year or so ago UCLA had a rather detailed list, which was eye-opening in looking at the competition (at that time).</p>
<p>It's really funny because every competitive uc hopeful student at my school took exactly 8 semesters of weighted uc approved classes from 10-11 grades, not a semester more or a semester less. I on the other hand took 40 semesters, so it really does help I suppose. </p>
<p>Click4rm: I just spoke with a UCLA admissions director and she said it applies for all UC schools starting this year. They will not do the capped gpa anymore.</p>
<p>Are you absolutely sure? Because I thought for these UCLA stats <a href="http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/Prospect/Adm_fr/Frosh_Prof07.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/Prospect/Adm_fr/Frosh_Prof07.htm</a> , it measures the fully weighted UC approved A-G honors classes as 4.30 . That is pretty high considering most "honors" classes don't count in the A-G weighted. If 4.3= fully weighted regular (not UC) GPA, I will be happy. Can someone call to verify if they're going to do weighted/unweighted over UC GPA this year?</p>
<p>Meanwhile on another thread....
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=390453%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=390453</a></p>
<p>Firebird44: where did you see this? Link?</p>
<p>Let's be clear here, folks. The 8 semester cap is ONLY for eligibility purposes, and it remains. "All campuses use the same method of calculating a preliminary grade point average for purposes of determining an applicant's UC eligibility." </p>
<p>However, individual campuses can and do also see the uncapped gpa during the holistic review process. UCLA, for example, has been publishing its uncapped number for the past few years. </p>
<p>If Cal and UCLA are your goal, taking only 8 bonus semester's worth of classes won't be good enough if your school offers a lot more than 8.</p>