<p>Has Brown released the number of ED applications filed this year? Penn was up 20% apparently.</p>
<p>haven't heard about brown but Harvard was level with last year and year before at 4,000</p>
<p>curious about this myself. seems like ED is the 'cool thing to do' nowdays.</p>
<p>Ya, everyone does ED now</p>
<p>If you are sure where you want to go, ED makes sense, as it improves your odds significantly. Just be sure. But The Penn stats are scary. With that many people applying ED, they can't keep taking the same high percentage without filling more than 1/2 the class from the ED pool, which they don't want to do. So there may not be the same risk/reward payoff in the future for ED.</p>
<p>penn does fill 1/2 the class from the ED pool every year. they are notorious for this and it's one of many reasons people sometimes accuse them of manipulating statistics for us news (it drops their overall admit rate since more people apply RD, and substantially increases the yield since half the class matriculates automatically).</p>
<p>I guess the word is out, which is why apps are up 20%. Also, I heard that legacies only get a push if they apply ED. So it seems you are right about manipulation of the ratings. And, it seems to be working for them.</p>
<p>i actually dont think ED helps at ivies at all. It's jstu a stronger applicant pool so the statistics are misleading. At a school like Tufts however, it helps a lot because they want to be sure you'll matriculate. Schools like the ives and amherst, stanford, etc. don't need to worry about yield so much, they know pretty much anyone applying would go if accepted, so why woudl they care if its ed or regular?</p>
<p>ya but imagine getting into your top choice school in december. How great would Senior year be?!</p>
<p>o yea there are definitely obvious benefits. I'm just saying, there sin't much of an edge in admissions, but if it's your first choice, then it makes no sense not to apply ed (assuming there are no financial concerns or whatever). Basically, I kind of wish I had applied ed to brown, so im trying to make myself feel better :(</p>
<p>"i actually dont think ED helps at ivies at all. It's jstu a stronger applicant pool so the statistics are misleading. At a school like Tufts however, it helps a lot because they want to be sure you'll matriculate." </p>
<p>Right about Tufts, wrong about the Ivies. It helps a lot at the IVIES, with exception of HY, who use EA, which is less of a boost. They are all playing the same game.</p>
<p>thanks a lot mensa, i just said i was trying to make myself feel better :( i still disagree with you though. while brown may lose some kids to HYP, it is in good enough standing that it does not really need to worry about that when accepting kids. there are some ineviable losses, but i don;t thinkt hey s it around saying "is this super qualified kid really going to am triculate or not?" They're in enough demand to not have to worry about that i think with their like 17,000 applicants or whtaever it is</p>
<p>One thing that is going to affect Brown apps this year (unfortunately) is television. Both Family Guy and The O.C. (apparently both Seth and Summer want to go to Brown.) I don't think that it will affect ED, though, since the OC episodes air in early dec.</p>
<p>david218, I posted prior to your later message. Brown is so hard to predict,because they have switched from EA to ED only recently. Maybe the playing field is less uneven between ed and rd and you may be just as well off. It's all guesswork. I think Brown plays a little different game in differentiating themselves in order to create a mystique that they look for intangible qualities. They reject many top candidates and are willing to take risks. I like that a lot.</p>
<p>ughhhh youre so right, but honestly, the type o fpeopel who will be turned on to brown from an OC episode or family guy probably aren't going to be formidable competition. sorry, but comeon. i dunno my guidance cousnelro told me that if brown is my absolute favorite i should apply ed, but she doesn't think it makes a difference in admissions. i really need to get over myself and stop regretting not applying ed, but its hard</p>
<p>The official position of Brown is that it makes no difference. I think they actually believe this, and it may even be true. It is patently NOT true at many schools that spout the same propaganda with equal earnestness</p>
<p>yea they all say it doesn't make a difference--well not all, but most--and I'm sure that's not true</p>
<p>hay, david, am I mistaking or were you saying at one point that Dartmouth had won you over? how come you decided not to apply ED?</p>
<p>haha you have a very good memory lakshmi. Yea, at first I thought Brown was for me, then I visited Dartmouth and though wow this is preetty amazing, too. In retrospect I think I should have just chosen one, but the thing is, I like them both so much so I was worried that if I got into one I would always wonder about the other. To be honest, I still don't know which I like better, but theyre both fabulous schools. I wish I could be as decisive as the rest of you</p>
<p>well at this point all I can tell you is to focus very well on what you really want from an univ: try making a list, and the compare what brown/dartmouth offer you (or don't). I know it's not easy.... but you should try that.</p>
<p>also: maybe it's good that you can't decide, in case you get accepted at one of them and rejected at the other you'll know you went either way to your dream scholl, unlike if EDers get rejected[as I am considering right now :(]</p>