<p>"Oh god man, you obviously know nothing about the committee. read up on it before you make statements like brown is paying reparations to decendents of rhode island slaves, please. don't misinform."</p>
<p>Hey, if Brown is not making reparations, I for one, am glad to hear it. :)</p>
<p>Thank you. DUH.....Now that I feel stupid, I'd like to pick your brain. What's the lowdown on Amherst, Boston College and Swarthmore? I heard that all the Swatties do is study... True statement or not?</p>
<p>Students everywhere are studying harder and devoting longer hours to it than ever before. The difference between Amherst and Swarthmore is that at Amherst the students don't like to admit that it takes hard work to get through their course material; it conflicts with their self-image of being "to the manor born" and above mere studiousness. The number of people who claim to have "aced the exam" following a night of drinking or other debauchery is truly amazing.</p>
<p>Swarthmore self-selects for an entirely different personality type: the slightly neurotic, future academic for whom every hour devoted to "typing alone" in his room at night is a point of pride. Same work, different attitude.</p>
<p>BC=guilty Catholics who don't have to be told what awaits them if they fall too far behind in their reading assignments: HELL.</p>
<p>Interesting about Amherst and Swarthmore. I like the way you described the two. You're not Catholic, are you.</p>
<p>"You're not Catholic are you."</p>
<p>Close. Episcopalian. We study hard, but don't brag about it. It just isn't done.</p>
<p>I respect that.</p>
<p>Ritchieboy, stop posting just to **** people off. You did that on the Emory board too.</p>
<p>I didn't know p i s s was a bad word</p>
<p>Which is better, Brown or Georgetown for non-creative types.</p>
<p>They're sort of equal. I mean, Georgetown certainly has the more pre-professional reputation. And never underestimate the Jesuits when it comes to tamping down anything that so much as suggests pleasure (you've read your St. Augustine, I presume.) But, don't forget, an awful lot of people at Brown feel that in order to compensate for their school's reputation for loose standards they have to study all the harder. That, in itself, can make for a very serious intellectual atmosphere.</p>
<p>What would you say the similarities are, if any, among Amherst, Boston College, Brown, Dartmouth, Princeton, Tufts, and Yale, in terms of location, curriculum, and social life? Or should I re-phrase that and say 'differences'?</p>
<p>Dartmouth and Amherst are both somewhat rural, Dartmouth more than Amherst. I'd say they're both pretty self-contained social life wise.</p>
<p>Amherst and Brown both have no requirements.</p>
<p>Princeton and Yale are pretty similar; they both anchor Harvard to the Big Three; they each emphasize undergraduates a tad more than that school in Cambridge. To me, New Haven is just a more condensed version of New Jersey. Neither is very far from New York. Princeton probably has the higher unreconstructed snob quotient (although, let's face it, we're talking matters of degree, here) as the drinking clubs still exercise an incredible amount of influence over campus life. Yale has clubs too, but so many of them are secret that the ordinary undergraduate doesn't notice them as much. Otherwise, there's not much sunlight between them.</p>
<p>Tufts and Brown have very similar campuses and are equally close to major New England downtown areas. Both have tiny old fashioned buildings tucked between very modern Life Sciences and other facilities that seem to stretch for blocks. Both are small universities that pay major lip-service to their LAC past lives. Yet, both are clearly obsessed with Harvard; Tufts because they must share Boston with it; Brown because it looks better losing students to Harvard than to Amherst and Williams.</p>
<p>johnwesley doesn't seem to know a whole lot about brown or colleges in general.</p>
<p>firstly, the intellectual atmostphere at brown results from a freedom to design your own course of study, not a compensation for a "reputation for loose standards", and is extremely different from georgetown. </p>
<p>secondly, yale and princeton could not be more different. just because both have excellent undergrad programs does not mean they are alike in any other way. yale is quite liberal, more artsy and quirky. princeton is more conservative and traditional. also, princeton has eating clubs, not "drinking clubs" and yale's infamous secret societies have nothing to do with their countless, highly visible undergraduate clubs.</p>
<p>thirdly, the campuses of tufts and brown are very different, and brown is hardly obsessed with harvard, except perhaps, for the occasionally disproportionate pleasure we take in beating their athletic teams because of some healthy inter-league rivalry.</p>
<p>On the first day, god created Harvard and saw that it was good. On the second day, god created Yale and saw that it was good etc etc......Do any of you know the part about Brown...</p>
<p>Oh, I don't know about all that. Princeton may be slightly more conservative overall, but they did manage to graduate Ralph Nader. And Yale, of course, supplied many of the founding fathers of the National Review. Saying, there's a huge difference between Princeton and Yale is a little like saying, there's a huge difference between Amherst and Williams. Sure there are some. But, none that would keep the average American family awake at night.</p>
<p>Anyone who has spent substantial time on the campuses of princeton and yale will tell you that they are indeed very different. Princeton is more conservative in every way--the alumni, and particularly the trustees, the professors, and the general student body. People dress more homogenously (preppy), and they are intense about Princeton traditions. </p>
<p>The majority of the people at Yale are politically liberal--particularly the professors. Although a lot of students are preppy, there is a lot more diversity in the way people dress and associate themselves. People are more ambivalent about the traditions, and more people tend to think of themselves as social progressives.</p>
<p>history of brown:
<a href="http://www.brown.edu/Administration/Admission/gettoknowus/ourhistory.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.brown.edu/Administration/Admission/gettoknowus/ourhistory.html</a></p>
<p>"Its much more relaxed PC than Wesleyan..."</p>
<p>Wesleyan is totally not THAT crazy liberal. Yeah, people there are liberal - most colleges are pretty liberal, but Wesleyan tends to take it to an extreme. However, while some people try to take PC to its limits, some do the opposite and reject PC altogether. Overall... Wesleyanites just like to discuss and argue intellectually and come to a more informed conclusion. Similar to Brown, except I'd say a bit more laidback.</p>
<p>Er, if it's not already obvious, I'll be a freshman there next fall :P</p>
<p>Weren't Williams, Wesleyan and Amherst once considered to be three variations on a very similar theme. It seems like they are really different now in campus culture. Is that the general impression?</p>