Some would characterize Mattress Girl’s “Carry that Weight” and “Ceci N’est Pas Un Viol” as libel. She did make the news recently for her most recent performance art in which she was tied up and beaten.
^Not libel.
Wouldn’t be the first time someone characterized free speech as libel 
So, @OHMomof2, someone could go around saying false and absolutely vile things about you, and you would say “It’s ok. This person is just exercising their free speech.”
She needs help. So sad.
The odd thing is that Mattress Girls father is a rather famous psychiatrist.
Truth is an absolute defense to libel.
^The DA found insufficient evidence to press charges. Columbia found insufficient evidence for her allegations under the very low preponderance of the evidence standard with procedural rules that favor the accuser. If that wasn’t enough to convince you the allegations are probably false, the NSFW video she made would be completely inexplicable if the allegations were remotely true.
Find this entire thread to be very amusing. From post #1: “The parents were distraught. Their daughter, a top student, had her heart set on a college that was, in their view, dangerously liberal, an institution to be avoided. They wanted options besides her daughter’s choice at the time … Yale University.”
Yale, LOL.
Anyone who thinks that has never sat in on a Yale Political Union debate or attended a Buckley Program event.
Contrary to rumor, Yale has not fallen into a PC wormhole.
Ok, this thread fell off the rails…
Always strikes me how much hand wringing from people who don’t know these schools closely enough to judge.
Right? You want to get the hebegeebees from some media article or two, without applying some sense, some critical thinking, or even knowing the slant driving some piece.
The vast majority of students are not on campus to protest. It happens. But try to keep it in perspective. The sky is NOT falling. Most profs are educating students in the subject matter of their classes, NOT fomenting revolution. C’mon.
If you don’t know a school, don’t assume. Why do I even need to say this?
^^^ This! Thank you!
I always bring up these issues to my kid and he wonders why people concern themselves with it…
Are there extremes on both ends? Yes. Do they derail the education students are receiving? No.
If these concerned parents don’t want there kid at Yale…Brown…wherever. Go ahead and control every aspect of your kid’s life. Let’s check in 20 years from now and see how they are doing with the choice YOU made for them.
Given the “hebegeebes” was this directed at me?
Yale is the one college, apart from our alma maters, that we we know quite a bit about. Since we live a short train ride away from Yale, our nephew visited us often (my brother’s home was 1500 miles away). He has been selling Yale since my kids were in elementary and junior high. My nephew and D are quite close, to the point that he flew from San Francisco to attend D’s high school graduation. Her decision about Yale involved discussing it with him.
So while I value your many contributions on this forum @lookingforward, you should also be careful about making assumptions.
Not directed at you, @hebegebe. Maybe I could have said “the willies” or somesuch. Sry.
Many times, on many threads, we see this rush to decisively label schools people know next to nothing about. They heard something, they fear something, or, golly gee, it was in print. They somehow don’t realize most campuses, most of the time, aren’t hotbeds of unrest. Lol, I’d include that favorite pick-on, Oberlin.
I don’t mind the vibes a kid or family might get, on campus or after reading up, in some depth and breadth, about their dept or some other deciding point. It’s the armchair insistence that gets me. Go on any campus and most kids have a focus on academics, ordinary activities, friendships, etc. (Since this is CC, I do mean the competitive colleges we usually discuss.)
re: #72 you say you know Yale, but previously said your daughter decided not to apply based on the Halloween costume incident. And was not that interested in Columbia due to Mattress Girl. The point lookingforward and others are making is that one or even a handful of isolated incidents involving a small percentage of students does not reflect the overall campus experience. The vast majority of Yale students (or students at most schools that have been in the news for these incidents) are not involved and are likely not overtly political. If that was one factor in not choosing Yale, and location was a bigger factor, that makes sense. But your earlier post suggests that the political issues were the key factor.
I don’t think that the vast majority of applicants are turning away from schools like Brown, Yale or Columbia due to these events. The acceptance rate has certainly not declined at those schools.
“Oberlin College, the University of Chicago and Grinnell College all saw a decrease”
Chicago liberal??!!??!! It’s been a bastion of free market conservatives for eons. I specifically did my graduate work there so I could learn how the other side thinks.
I do have to wonder if these parents are going to have veto rights where their kids can work and live after graduation.
Sounds to me like these parents fear their kids might question the parents beliefs after being exposed to those of a different political persuasion.
@iwannabe_Brown - Here is one of the articles:
http://www.browndailyherald.com/2014/09/26/lowest-ivy-rank-faze-admins-students/
You started a thread about Brown’s political reputation costing it applicants - a result that this year’s stats to be completely unfounded - and now you’re talking about its low endowment compared to other Ivy League schools.
OK, you don’t like Brown. So don’t apply there - that’s the beauty of our free society. But you seem to be conflating endowment size with the effect of campus culture on admissions. I’m not seeing the point.
I’ll betcha nearly all universities have to “be very careful and very purposeful about where” they make investments.
They can enjoy Liberty U I guess.