Brown Transfer Applicant Survey - FA & need-aware admissions

Transfer Students
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<p>Transfer admission at Brown is need-aware:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.brown.edu/about/administration/financial-aid/transfer-applicants-fa-policy%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.brown.edu/about/administration/financial-aid/transfer-applicants-fa-policy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>and they state that they have limited FA for transfers:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.brown.edu/Administration/Admission/applyingtobrown/transferstudents.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.brown.edu/Administration/Admission/applyingtobrown/transferstudents.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Since there are many Brown transfer applicants here on CC, I'd like to collect some information on whether they applied for FA, and if accepted, if they felt their FA package covered their need. I will summarize the results, which will hopefully help give future applicants some idea of how Brown's need-aware and FA policies affect transfer admissions.</p>

<p>Here are the questions:</p>

<p>Applied for FA: Yes/No
Decision: Accepted/WL/Denied
FA package: N/A/Did not apply/Covered need?/How good compared to other colleges?/Other comments
Other schools: Accepted/WL/Denied</p>

<p>Thanks everybody!</p>

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<p>Applied for FA: Yes
Decision: Denied
FA package: N/A
Other schools: Accepted: Rice, U. Chicago, Vanderbilt; Waitlisted: U.Va.; Denied: Dartmouth</p>

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<p>Applied for FA: No
Decision: Accepted for spring
FA package: N/A
Other schools: Accepted at Columbia, Georgetown, Barnard, Trinity. Pending at NYU</p>

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<p>Applied for FA: Yes (EFC of 0)
Decision: Waitlisted
FA Package: N/A
Other schools: Accepted: UCSB, UC Davis (full ride!), UC Berkeley, UCLA, USC; Denied: UPenn</p>

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<p>It would be helpful if you also put the schools you accepted/ rejected to see if the decision was indeed based on FA.</p>

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<p>^^Good idea. Added to the template and I will edit the above posts based on the Results thread information.</p>

<p>From 2 years ago:</p>

<p>Applied for FA: No (no FA offered as a Fr and no major changes in financial status so didn’t expect any FA would be offered if accepted as a soph transfer)
Decision: Accepted
FA Package: N/A
Other schools: Accepted: Yale, Dartmouth, Amherst; Denied: Stanford</p>

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<p>Long time ago but…</p>

<p>Applied for FA: No
Decision: Accepted
FA Package: N/A
Other schools: Accepted: Dartmouth, Duke; Waitlisted: Harvard</p>

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<p>Applied for FA: Yes
Decision: Waitlisted
FA Package: N/A
Other schools: Accepted: Yale, Penn, Wesleyan; Waitlisted: Dartmouth, Swarthmore; Denied: Amherst</p>

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<p>Good idea–I haven’t posted in the results thread yet because I’m still waiting on NYU, so:</p>

<p>Accepted at Columbia, Georgetown, Barnard, Trinity. Pending at NYU. Will attend Columbia.</p>

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<p>^^I will edit your earlier post so that all of your information is together. Thanks!</p>

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<p>Applied for FA: No
Decision: Accepted
FA package: Did not apply (for all schools applied to)
Other schools: </p>

<p>Also accepted at:
Columbia (CC)
Penn CAS
UChicago
Cornell (CALS as an NYS resident)
Vanderbilit (A/S)
Wellesley
Smith
SUNY stonybrook/binghamton
Northwestern(Communications)
NYU(Gallatin)</p>

<p>Waitlisted:
Harvard</p>

<p>Rejected:
Amherst, Middlebury(not taking any transfers this year)</p>

<p>I did not apply for fin. aid because I am ineligible (cannot file a FAFSA because I don’t have my greencard yet). Had I been eligible, i would have applied for FA, but I believe my chances for admissions would have been greatly reduced.</p>

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<p>Applied for FA: No</p>

<p>Decision: Accepted</p>

<p>FA package: Did not apply: Because of this, I’m going to have to take out huge loans, but thank God it’ll only be two years.</p>

<p>Other schools: </p>

<p>Accepted:
UC Berkeley’s Haas School of Business
Babson College</p>

<p>Denied:
N/A</p>

<p>Seems as if the “Need-Aware” policy does impact transfer admissions quite a bit. I hope I got in mainly because of my application–not because of my ability to pay… So much for merit (now I feel insecure).</p>

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<p>The results of this thread so far imply that financial need is a huge factor.</p>

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<p>Applied for FA: Yes
Decision: Accepted for Fall
FA package: Better than what my current university is giving me
Other schools: Accepted: Georgetown Denied: Yale</p>

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<p>Applied for FA: Yes
Decision: Accepted
FA package: Not sure, still under review
Other schools: WL: Stanford, Rejected: Yale, Columbia, Penn</p>

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<p>Applied for FA: Yes (EFC of 0)
Decision: Rejected
Other Schools Applied:
Duke (accepted)
William and Mary (accepted)</p>

<p>Will be attending Duke.</p>

<p>Really wish I knew they were need aware before basically giving them $65…</p>

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<p>^^^I completely agree. Being need aware for transfers is their prerogative, but they should have stated it here on the main transfer admissions page:</p>

<p>[Brown</a> Admission: Transfer Students](<a href=“Undergraduate Admission | Brown University”>Undergraduate Admission | Brown University)</p>

<p>It would have fit perfectly in this section:</p>

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<p>Instead, the only place I have found it is under Transfer Applicants on the FA A to Z index:</p>

<p><a href=“https://financialaid.brown.edu/Cmx_Content.aspx?cpId=56[/url]”>https://financialaid.brown.edu/Cmx_Content.aspx?cpId=56&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Since B is need blind for fr applicants, not many people would dig this far to find out that they’re need aware for transfers. And the truth is, need blind/aware is an ADMISSIONS policy, not a FA one, so the information really belongs on the Admissions, not the FA section.</p>

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<p>FA= yes, (efc near zero)
decision-> waitlisted</p>

<p>accepted- columbia swarth cornell (attending swat)
waitlisted HY Duke Dartmouth Amherst
Reject williams</p>

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<p>Spring '05</p>

<p>Applied for FA: Yes
Decision: Accepted
FA package: 18k grant, 6k loans and work study, roughly. Other schools gave me more.
Accepted at: U Penn, Vassar (recruit), University of Puget Sound, and Swarthmore
Deffered at: WUSTL (never followed up)
Denied at: Oberlin, Tufts, Yale, Pomona</p>

<p>50% of applicants that year applied for finaid. 14% of the matriculating class was on financial aid. That year, at least, it made a huge impact. </p>

<p>relating it to decisions at other schools is correlative and does not indicate a causal link kids!!</p>

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<p>True, but information about decisions to other schools can assist in determining whether an applicant who asked for FA and was denied was a competitive candidate to start with. I don’t see a problem in getting as much pertinent data as possible on why an admissions decision was made, particularly in this situation where B is clearly stating that it is basing decisions both on financial and admissions criteria. It’s important that applicants have as much information as possible about admissions, particularly for transfers where substantial data is lacking.</p>