Brown U --> Cornell U Transfer Chances?

<p>You say it's easy to transfer among Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Penn....
But is there an advantage, even if more minute, when applying to a school like Harvard or Yale - where I will be aiming for transfer?</p>

<p>brand did u get rejected by cornell in the past or something? maybe the op just likes cornell better than brown, nothing wrong with that. sort of like how i like gome's posts better than yours.</p>

<p>anyways i think the op will have a very good chance at ilr. ur high school stats are a tad low though.
im not sure if you'll get into cas though. assuming you have good essays & very solid reasons for transferring id say 50/50.
btw are you a urm or athlete?</p>

<p>sarahhh - was something in my post rude? All I've stated is that the Brown name will help him in transferring but that CAS is still extremely tough to get into and that it's not a guaranteed acceptance. If anything I'm emphasizing the difficulty of Cornell CAS for transfers and making Cornell look good, as it is.</p>

<p>I've never applied to Cornell, though I will be applying to the law school. And I don't really care that you like gome's posts more than mine; that should be expected since you and he both attend Cornell and you can't take anyone criticizing your school. Peace.</p>

<p>lol who are you trying to fool brand_182? We've all read your anti-Cornell posts over and over and over. I'm just unsure why you choose to make so many biased posts about a school you've never attended nor even applied to apparently. The fact you didn't apply to Cornell doesn't make your posts more objective, just more pathetic (no offense) and perhaps trollish.</p>

<p>BTW: What happened with WashU? I thought you were a big WashU fan.</p>

<p>please point out my anti-Cornell posts. If you're referring to the Cornell ILR vs. Columbia thread (which is the only time I've actually spoken extensively about Cornell), I wasn't attacking Cornell but comparing it to Columbia. Just because I don't think Cornell is as good as Columbia does not imply that I have a bias against the school. As I said, I was very close to applying but didn't want to apply to CAS because of the 8% acceptance rate (which I'm informing this poster about) and didn't want to apply to CALS AEM b/c I decided to not major in business.</p>

<p>It seems that many of you (just as sarahhh in this thread) take any negative comment about Cornell as an attack against yourself. This is very immature. Especially if you read back through this thread, you should all realize that I've made two posts: one regarding the statement (post #12) by another pro-Cornell person that Cornell pre-law is better than Brown (false, according to top law placement results), and the other telling the OP that the Brown name wouldn't guarantee him a spot at Cornell CAS. So what do we have here? One of my posts is arguing against someone blindly stating that Cornell pre-law is better than Brown, and the other post is me reinforcing the difficulty of transferring into Cornell CAS - that is, my second post could be taken as pro Cornell but certainly not anti-Cornell. </p>

<p>As I've said, if you've got something against me, point it out. That's why people are capable of QUOTING things. If you have nothing and just want to rant about my "anti-Cornell bias," you're only fooling yourself. You need some evidence.</p>

<p>Re: WashU, I was accepted. I am attending Wesleyan though.</p>

<p>"one regarding the statement (post #12) by another pro-Cornell person that Cornell pre-law is better than Brown (false, according to top law placement results"</p>

<p>are you still basing this judgement on the # of Cornell students HLS and YLS have? Do you think this may be a little shady evidence to reach such a conclusion?</p>

<p>Ok, let's look back at the claims here gomestar. One person said Cornell pre-law is better than Brown. Have I said that Brown pre-law is better than Cornell? No. I've merely stated that top law school placement results AT LEAST indicate that the statement "Cornell is better at Brown for pre-law" is false. If anything, I will argue for relative equality between the two schools for now. That person (post #12) flat out says Cornell is better for pre-law than Brown. And what is he basing that opinion on? And yet no one on here questions that statement. That is why people like the OP should be careful to realize that when you post in the Cornell forum, you will get a Cornell bias, even if that means the Cornell people not arguing against anything that puts their school in a better light, even if there is no evidence to prove it so.</p>

<p>Case in point: Were I on my school (Wesleyan's) forum, if I saw the statement "Wesleyan is better than Cornell for pre-law," I would state that it is false because no one knows that for sure. I would imagine they are more or less equal, as is the case between Brown and Cornell.</p>

<p>brand_182, the reason kids choose to post on this forum is to get some INSIDER info. Percentages and statistics are useful but only to a degree. If that's all someone wanted, they can find the info online. Who knows why ILR has a high percentage of HR graduates? Is it necessarily because its curriculum is incompatible with IB/consulting? Perhaps (although from the high percentage going to Wall St. I would say no). Or is it because the students entering ILR are just more people-oriented? I don't know the answer. Then again I'm not an ILRie. Neither are you. That's why gomestar is the best guy to answer this type of question instead of you or I making conjectures.</p>

<p>I have no problem with people posting statistics or percentages or making posts that are anti-Cornell. However, I do distrust people who seem to have a vendetta against a school, particularly one they have no association with.</p>

<p>"No. I've merely stated that top law school placement results AT LEAST indicate that the statement "Cornell is better at Brown for pre-law" is false."</p>

<p>Law school vernacular. Your logic "cornell is better at pre-law is false" implies the inverse that "since it is not true that cornell is better than brown at pre-law, then brown must be better". You don't specifically say it, but there's not much left to the imagination.</p>

<p>After reading the original post, it seemed clear to me that the OP didn't know much a/b Cornell and transferring. All I've posted as far as "statistics" go is the acceptance rate for CAS. Again, if anything, this is something that makes Cornell look even more prestigious and difficult to gain entry in. I'm unsure as to how you can derive a "vendetta" against Cornell from that. </p>

<p>As I've said, if you can find something in my posts that is "anti-Cornell," please point it out </p>

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perhaps quote it, like this

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<p>and I'll be sure not to post in that manner again. So far, all I see is a post arguing against Cornell being better than Brown for pre-law (which, of course, all the pro Cornell people attack me for and do not dispute his unbased claim) and me talking about how tough Cornell CAS is to get into.</p>

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Your logic "cornell is better at pre-law is false" implies the inverse that "since it is not true that cornell is better than brown at pre-law, then brown must be better".

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<p>OH COME ON! You go to Cornell so you must realize that just because I disagree with the statement "Cornell is better for pre-law than Brown" it does not mean that I agree with the opposite. And I've made it clear, BTW, that I consider Cornell and Brown equal. If anything, you're using some faulty logic since there are two possiblities:</p>

<p>1) I believe Brown pre-law is better
2) I believe Brown and Cornell pre-law are equal</p>

<p>and you immediately choose the first without any evidence.</p>

<p>And I'll say it again, I've yet to see any of the rest of you disagree with that statement "Cornell is better than Brown for pre-law." Do you all agree with that, and if so on what basis? Seriously, get over yourselves. Cornell is a good school but just because some Cornell student or future student says it's than Brown for pre-law does not make it so.</p>

<p>"OH COME ON! You go to Cornell so you must realize that just because I disagree with the statement "Cornell is better for pre-law than Brown" it does not mean that I agree with the opposite."</p>

<p>I'm well aware of this, but I've had as much "law school prep" one can get w/o actually going to law school - many people here havn't, I dont want them to get the wrong idea with your carefully chosen words.</p>

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One of my posts is arguing against someone blindly stating that Cornell pre-law is better than Brown

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<p>Tell me again how someone can be fooled by this? I've clearly said "I argue against the notion that Cornell pre-law is better than Brown." Does that imply that I believe the opposite? No. Just as if someone said "Harvard is a better school than Yale" and I said that was false. This does not imply the opposite. If you must clear that up for others, thanks.</p>

<p>"If you must clear that up for others, thanks."</p>

<p>I dont know about you, but I dont read every post let alone every single line in a thread.</p>

<p>Good, since all one has to do is read that line. Even if someone were to read this line just scrolling through</p>

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One of my posts is arguing against someone blindly stating that Cornell pre-law is better than Brown<br>

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<p>it would be their fault if they take that to imply that Brown is better than Cornell. I'm just arguing against ignorance whereas it seems the rest of you accept it so long as it is pro-Cornell.</p>

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The fact you didn't apply to Cornell doesn't make your posts more objective, just more pathetic (no offense) and perhaps trollish.

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<p>Really, because I would think it'd be more trolling if I'd applied, was rejected, and then came around the Cornell board. And again, I've said nothing negative about Cornell in this thread. It seems that you and others have created an image of myself with an anti-Cornell bias and brought it to this thread, but to no avail, as there have been no derogatory marks. If there had been, you'd have used them as evidence. ;)</p>

<p>" One of my posts is arguing against someone blindly stating that Cornell pre-law is better than Brown"</p>

<p>you did the same 'blind argument' for Brown and brought up stuff like 'top law school placement'.</p>

<p>No, I did not. </p>

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by another pro-Cornell person that Cornell pre-law is better than Brown (false, according to top law placement results),

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<p>This statement (the one you're talking about) says that the argument "Cornell is better than Brown for pre-law" is false, according to top law placement results. I did not say that top law placement results say Brown is better - you insinuated that. The results could very well (as they in fact do) imply that neither school is better than the other for law placement. It is you, however, that saw my post, believed I had an anti-Cornell bias, and implied that I am stating Brown is better.</p>

<p>FWIW, that person simply stated that Cornell is better than Brown with no evidence. I said that his statement was false and quoted top law placement results, yet you are focusing on my argument and not his. Why is that?</p>

<p>"I said that his statement was false and quoted top law placement results, yet you are focusing on my argument and not his. Why is that?"</p>

<p>because of this:</p>

<p>"I dont know about you, but I dont read every post let alone every single line in a thread."</p>

<p>"This statement (the one you're talking about) says that the argument "Cornell is better than Brown for pre-law" is false, according to top law placement results. I did not say that top law placement results say Brown is better - you insinuated that."</p>

<p>I'll keep the lawyer talk out of it and just flat out tell you that I'm talking about the proof, not the argument. I questioned how you can conclude anything with the 'data' that really isn't data at all. I dont know if CU is better, I dont know if Brown is better, I'd ASSUME that they're both about even, but I can't prove this. I questioned why/how you cited "top law placement results", not your argument. </p>

<p>"It is you, however, that saw my post, believed I had an anti-Cornell bias"
Now this I've never said.</p>

<p>PS - the only people I've come to conclude have anti-Cornell biases are slipper and our pal Columbiahopeful. I'm sure there's more, but I tend to avoid them.</p>

<p>Nevermind all of this, Zoolander is on.</p>

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I questioned why/how you cited "top law placement results", not your argument.

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<p>If you'd like, you can look at the WSJ feeder rankings or the HLS/YLS class representation reports. Sadly, that's about as good of information as one can get without heading to the pre-law office of your school. Even if one is to take those reports as "only somewhat factual," they can be used to negate the claim that Cornell pre-law is better than Brown. But keep in mind, I have not said Brown is better than Cornell, just that the CONVERSE is crap and based on nothing other than blind school devotion.</p>

<p>Anyways, I wonder why you focus on my statement "according to top law school placement results" and not the argument overall. I've stated that Cornell is not better than Brown for pre-law - something which you supposedly agree with. So why are you focusing on the data I've suggested and not the argument. And why have you still yet to refute the poster that we are both arguing about: I just find it strange that you say nothing to the one that made a false claim in post #12 yet you try to pick apart my claim when YOU ACTUALLY AGREE WITH IT? </p>

<p>Could it be that you're willing to let something go uncontested if it's pro-Cornell? If you're worried about naive readers seeing statements and taking them as fact, shouldn't you be worrying about:</p>

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why wouldn't he transfer to cornell? (better engineering, better under-grad business, better pre-law, better pre-med, better food, better alumni network...etc)

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<p>Obviously if someone reads this and takes it as fact they're going to leave thinking Cornell is better for pre-law, but you had no problem with that. </p>

<p>The pro-Cornell bias is suffocating sometimes. I would suggest taking a step back and realizing that I'm not attacking your school and you are picking at my argument which rests on logic and not even focusing on post #12 which rests on nothing.</p>

<p>P.S. Go enjoy Zoolander. This can wait. :D</p>