<p>coolman, I was being sarcastic, which I thought I showed through my over-the-topness. But I guess that sarcasm doesn't travel well over the internets.</p>
<p>I should add that I'm somebody who thought SUNY-Binghamton was like heaven on earth when I visited, and I think Berkeley, Michigan and Virginia are all very, very, very awesome.</p>
<p>I definitely sensed the sarcasm, but I thought it was meant to criticize how I insisted Cornell is not a state school</p>
<p>By the way, this is completely random and tangential, but what is U of C? U Chicago?</p>
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*** are you talking about? Never, Never, Never have have I said that Amherst is better than Harvard nor do I have any idea what you are talking about. I consider HYPSM to be the best universities in the nation hands down and in my personal opinion Harvard as the best (that is totally subjective. Thanks for your input though.</p>
<p>Ok 2nd off, my friend who got rejected from Michican CAS got into Cornells Hotel School.. so stop pulling this bs about experience in Hospitality. What kid has experience in hospitality...was he a waiter or a janitor? The hotel school is actually the most competitive out of the joke schools at Cornell, but anyway. As you have heard from many people, like newyorka and I agree Cornell is perceived as the weakest ivy and the students that attend are ones who could not attend the others. Is this a limited opinion, perhaps, but isn't everyone else's here as well</p>
<p>Also 30+ years ago Penn wasn't seen as the weakest IVy, actually Columbia with all of its issues (riots, money ect.) was the joke to get into. Now and for the last few decades Cornell has held that position. </p>
<p>Finally for those like coolman who say how can you comment on something you obviously don't extensively know than wouldn't that essentially be every single person who has failed to attend Cornell...since what can they know? Point is thats the perception where I live and at my school, which send 20% to Ivies as well as much of the educated (who happen to be the elite)</p>
<p>Finally Pizzagirl, nice job touting your credentials. THis is an opinion from top doctors in New York, Partner at GS, CEO of a fortune 500, successful Lawyers in numerous locales. But obviously you know better as a business consultant. Congratulations. People rank schools simple as that and a lot of people certainly know the US News rankings. Also pizzagirl when I get dressed in the morning I try to look good, is that a factor of how people will see me, perhaps but its also how I want to look. Kind of like the top schools---enjoy</p>
<p>There are so many things wrong with that post that I don't even know where to start. Actually, I'm not even going to correct all of Bescraze's misconceptions there, I don't have the time or patience to.</p>
<p>this is hilarious</p>
<p>Actually there is one thing I will say about that, Bescraze. What you call "joke schools" happen to be the top in the world in their respective fields, even if their admissions standards are different from Cornell CAS and the other Ivies.</p>
<p>Bescraze, hey, give Cornell it's due! It worked hard to get that title away from Penn!!</p>
<p>Newyorka, are you a Penn alum?</p>
<p>coolman123 its ok your wrong, it happens.
Commonly considered IVy rankings:
HYP
Penn/ Columbia
Dartmouth/Brown (some people say lower, but most here)
Cornell (have a nice day in Ithaca.)</p>
<p>Oh why waste one of the 5 nice days a year in Ithica when he's on the internet thinking up pithy responses anyway!</p>
<p>Coolman, not, I do not/did not attend Penn.</p>
<p>you attack the quality of my responses when they are in fact more valid and fact based than yours</p>
<p>this is getting retarded.</p>
<p>newyorka, bescraze:</p>
<p>dude, lighten up. I hope you guys have better things to argue about then spend this much time on how Cornell sucks and is safety school, getting its position to be worst ivy. that is your opinion, but, how is it relevant to this thread anyway? Does it take this long for you to answer to the topic that this person should choose Brown over Cornell? This is really getting retarded. </p>
<p>also, for those who say that Cornell gets high marks on rankings solely on graduate programs, ur wrong. Princeton has even LESS grad schools compared to Brown or Dartmouth, YET, it is ranked much higher than Cornell, which has more grad schools than Princeton. </p>
<p>finally, for a simple thread asking for "Brown vs Cornell", getting this much responses show how people on this board diss this school. funny thing is these are same people dissing the school, from other threads, constantly. I think we heard what you say. Let's stay away from excessive repetition.</p>
<p>bescraze/ deviating from the main topic, your "commonly considered ivy ranking" has Penn and Columbia in the same group?</p>
<p>i agree Columbia does come after HYP, everyone basically agrees on that.
but Penn?</p>
<p>..........yeah right. </p>
<p>i thought Penn had the second highest admit rate only after cornell. if cornell is the worst ivy simply because it has such high admit rate, i thought it was a natural logic that Penn should be considered as your second worst.</p>
<p>well, now i see that you listed Penn as your third favorite ivy only after Harvard and Yale in the other topic. and you were bashing cornell all this time for its high admit rate. gosh, this is getting really disgusting.</p>
<p>"Oh why waste one of the 5 nice days a year in Ithica when he's on the internet thinking up pithy responses anyway!"</p>
<p>Very weak. Is this the kind of attack you are resorting to, rather than having a civilized writing? It is one thing that you think low of the school. It is crossing the line when you insult others based on his affiliation with the school. Man up, dude.</p>
<p>"coolman123 its ok your wrong, it happens.
Commonly considered IVy rankings:
HYP
Penn/ Columbia
Dartmouth/Brown (some people say lower, but most here)
Cornell (have a nice day in Ithaca.)"</p>
<p>You must be the biggest prestige-brain wash I've encountered on this board in quite a while. You cite the prestige ranking in almost thread that is nonrelevat to that topic, especially whenever the thread has anything to do with Cornell. I would be really interested to meet you in real life and see how awesome you are.</p>
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You must be the biggest prestige-brain wash I've encountered on this board in quite a while. You cite the prestige ranking in almost thread that is nonrelevat to that topic, especially whenever the thread has anything to do with Cornell. I would be really interested to meet you in real life and see how awesome you are.
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<p>Bescraze, at this level, a discussion between whether a student should pick Brown or Cornell isn't a discussion about prestige. It's a discussion in which the student is asking for input about the culture and character of the schools and about anything special about either one that might sway his decision. Appropriate answers are: "If you prefer xyz, Brown's setting is more xyz than Cornell's setting." "Cornell offers opportunities in abc that might be to your liking." Inappropriate answers are "OMG Cornell totally suckz how embarrassing it's the weakest." </p>
<p>It's fascinating how, if a student were deciding between NU and U of Chicago, I guarantee unalove and I could have a pleasant discussion about pros and cons and provide him or her with REAL information for him to consider without ever having to tear the other one down or invoke miniscule differences in prestige. Or same thing if a student were deciding between NU and Cornell - applejack, cayugared and I could do the same. Why can't you ever do the same? Do you think it makes you look *better? Do you think "Cornell is the worst ivy ever" constitutes "information", or just high school stupidity?</p>
<p>I think we were all just having fun with Coolman playing the straight man.</p>
<p>Of course it matters little at this level and is about individual choice. Though I can't get the 78% figure out of my head, it speaks volumes.</p>
<p>Bescraze man, you really gotta care about Cornell a lot; how much time do you spend in this forum trying to prove your weird arguments about it being less than the other ivies? Stop for a second, get out of the fight you have and try to think about it.........you really think that a university that is well known in the entire world, that has amazing programs in many fields, that internationally has much more prestige than some of the ivies and that gives unbelievable opportunities to a lot of people, can be consider what you say...</p>
<p>Man, think about it. I know that for some reason you enjoy it, but it makes no sense.</p>
<p>coolman-- yeah, "UofC" is "University of Chicago." "U of C," to my family, is also "not Cornell." It was a little hard for me to turn away from Cornell, but I think it was what I needed to do-- experience a new city, a new part of the country, a school where I don't have as much of a familiarity of places and people coming in. I also liked Chicago's smaller campus, smaller ug student body, more of a universal interest in liberal arts-- but if I were at Cornell, I'd probably hole up in Risley or West Campus and call that home :-)</p>
<p>I've never been a big fan of revealed preference rankings (what I think you're referring to, newyorka) because that tells you what *other *people do. But other people make bad decisions all the time! They smoke, they marry the wrong people, they aspire to hold a job that makes them miserable even though it pays well.</p>
<p>From where I am from, I think Brown would be considered the more "ooh and aah" school,but for the last time that doesn't mean it's a better choice for the OP!</p>
<p>I feel like we need a Bruno on here to articulate Brown's strengths.</p>
<p>I think a bunch of us Cornellians have articulated Brown's strengths pretty well. </p>
<p>Dynamic, student body with a liberal arts bent. Open curriculum. Hipsters and indie rock lovers. Social scene that revolves around smaller dorm parties as opposed to large fraternities/bars/house parties.</p>