Does anybody? Well, FWIW, I did. Personally, I tend to roll my eyes at applicants who spend so much time trying to look for loopholes. Colleges state that they look at the best scores, yet some think that they are gaining something by withholding scores. In my mind, it is what it is. Take the colleges at their word, and use the energy spent on worrying about SAT scores (and how colleges will view them) on something more constructive.
@Charger78 DS1 (not at boarding school but at local school) took ACT Saturday, and I added a few In-State colleges (academic/financial safety schools) for free score reporting service. You have until Noon Thursday to do so.
Apparently, colleges can see the student’s school ranking 1,2,3,4 if scores are sent this way. Given there are tens of thousands students applying to a dozen or more schools, I doubt the (in-state) colleges worry if they are a 4th choice.
I was just trying to save $48. ($12 per school)
DS claims that he did not run out of time. During a full-length princeton review practice test provided at school, he misread his watch and ran out of time in reading and got 24, so composite 29. Still within the range for the state colleges. I’m hoping he did better, but we will see.
Maybe my thinking did get a little silly. We have one ACT score already known, and the second sitting just completed, reportedly better than the first, which I had found acceptable for darn near most schools on our list. OTOH, we don’t yet know the results of the new March SAT, nor, the subject tests that are supposed to be taken in June. Most colleges say to send only the one or the other, ACT or SAT, so it seems likely that they would be put off if sent both, now and in the fall. Either we decide that the ACT is fine the way it is (superscored in worst case scenario), or we think that we have to know the results of all the SAT testing first and send the better scores in the fall, for the required fees. (I do likes my $48, but . . . ) ~O)
It is complicated indeed.
We are hoping all the testings to be completed by June. (It is what it is after June.)
That removed taking new SAT because it will go into October testing. DS will take Subject tests in May and June. He has completed Math 2 Subject test last year.
He may take ACT in June and then be done with the tests.
I hope the BS juniors survived the week(s) of testing hell.
http://www.■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■/comparing-act-and-new-sat-scores/
Here is a chart for choosing ACT or SAT for further testing after a sitting on each.
@payn4ward I’m confused, what is “the week(s) of testing hell”? Do you mean AP testing?
@TheStig2 Sorry. Yes, I meant the 2 weeks of AP exams.
There was also the SAT test on May 7th, and some LPS students took late April ACT/SAT tests depending on the State for a true testing hell.
It seems that BS students take less tests. At local schools, many take 4-6 AP exams.
Neither one of my kids took an AP test (well one put together an art portfolio) and did just fine. Glad their school doesn’t do AP classes nor hypes the exams. I just don’t see the need to feed that machine and wish more would move away from it.
Mine took early April ACT, 3 APs (2 physics) and physics subject test. But he got a number of classes off to accommodate AP testing. He doesn’t stress about testing so we aren’t either.
Charger '16 took only one AP exam at SAS, in English Literature. He did take a few SAT II tests, as he went with that over the ACT. He got into a highly selective school without the APs, but he took a rigorous schedule of advanced classes. At the end of this school year, it did not make any sense to have him take the AP calculus exam that he could have taken. Charger '17 is pretty much adopting the same approach. Has two sets of ACTs, and is taking subject tests in June, one of which is Latin; she opted not to take that as an AP test. Has yet to see the first SAT I scores, so doesn’t know which testing group she will submit in the fall. The college admission guidelines that we are looking at seem to not officially use the APs, nor are we looking to get advanced credit for AP testing. The GC is fine with all this.
SoxBoy was definitely happy to have the past two weeks over with! He took 4 AP exams (English Lit, Calculus, Chinese, and Bio), plus submitted an AP art portfolio. But then the March SAT scores came yesterday and he did extremely well, so now he’s done with SAT/ACT testing, which is a huge relief. Just one more SAT subject test to take in June, and then one in the fall (a subject not offered in the June test date). But those don’t really matter all that much, so testing stress is pretty much done. I should note that of the AP exams he took, only two of them were exams he needed to take (he was in AP Calculus and Bio courses, which then require you to take the exam). The others were just because he wanted to challenge himself and see how he did.
http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/19665187/#Comment_19665187
This inflation at least will force colleges into the right direction. Ignore test scores.
Totally agree with @payn4ward that there is significant “grade inflation” on standardized tests these days, and seemingly even more so on the new SAT, as compared to the ACT. That said, you still have to take them, and you still have to get a score that’s in the ballpark for the schools you want to apply to.
Any idea if and when universities will be posting “average” scores based on the new SAT? Curious to see how it affects it.
DS is recovering from knee arthroscopy and will have to take AP’s on makeup days. I thought these AP’s were the last of standardized testing hell. How I was wrong. Since he’s interested in Engineering programs, he (we) realizes now he must take at least math and science SAT Subject tests. EHS CC office did alert him (us) in the Spring. Both we didn’t realize they were so necessary. 6/4 is the only date available, unless he pushes to October. Even if he followed EHS CC’s advice about taking subject tests in May, his surgery would have pushed that test to a later date. Since 6/4 is graduation day for EHS, he (and some classmates) will unfortunately miss the commencement exercises. Really a shame. I’m just a tad bitter about all of this standardized testing…
I find myself a bit glad that my kid doesn’t do any AP classes.
@i70sband Sorry to hear about the logistics problem and I hope his knee recovers quickly.
I think October test is okay if he is done with other tests (SAT/ACT.)
Although there seems to be several opportunities to take those tests, if you consider conflicts with sports, concerts, unexpected illness, etc, there are not that many Saturdays left. Scheduling tests become big logistics problem during the Junior year. I even considered having DS1 take a test at an out of town location in the middle of a trip.
I’m not sure if DS’s will eventually need the test scores, but since we did not want to close doors to any schools, I have had them take those science Subject tests in May or June after taking the subject class. That means DS2 (freshman) is taking physics subject test coming June. I do not like introducing standardized testing this early, but the alternative is busier junior year. He will take chemistry and math 2 subject tests in May/June after sophomore year.
@payn4ward are you sure that “Physics First” (freshman) physics class is adequate preparation for the physics subject test? The class is somewhat different than the physics course normally taken by juniors (who have more math under their belts).
FWIW, my son took a basic physics class (not AP) his sophomore year, and then took the SAT Physics test that year. His physics teacher helpfully suggested a few topics that he should study more on his own, as they were things that are typically on the test but which they hadn’t covered in any great detail in class. With that additional studying (which didn’t take him all that much time), he did quite well on the SAT subject test. He didn’t get a perfect score, but for a kid who has some vague interest in pursuing science in college but also could go in the humanities direction, his score was perfectly respectable, especially because he knew he’d later take AP level courses in Calculus and other sciences.
@friendlymom It probably is not.
DS2 plans to take Chem/AP Chem next year, Bio junior year, and AP Phys senior year, so he won’t have another physics in school setting until too late for testing anyway. Thus, it is self study now or self study later (or not take the test at all.)
DS said, you are going to teach me, Mom, right? (my degrees are in physics.)
Both DS1 (junior) and DS2 are taking it in June. I figure no harm in trying self-study with mom.