I’m looking for the list of Bs Md programs that are accepting International students ( Visa status H4 ) after completing high school in USA?
I read about this a few days ago. Scroll through some posts in this subforum. The post I read implied that it’s almost impossible to get accepted as an international BSMD candidate. Virtually the only students who do are Canadian. There was a logical reason for it, but I can’t remember what it was. It would appear that your quest will be in vain. If I can find the post, I will link it here.
It’s very difficult for international students to get accepted to medical school in the U.S. The small number accepted are mostly Canadian. Is that what you read?
@pbsmd11 BSMD programs are amongst THE most competitive programs for admission in this country. Acceptance rates are in the low single digits, lower than most top 20 colleges.
Can you fund your education here?
@WayOutWestMom is there specific admission info for BSMD international students?
There are a handful of BA/MD programs that will consider international students for admissions:
Boston University
Brown University
Case Western University
Penn State University/Sidney Kimmel SOM
Rice University/Baylor SOM
University of Connecticut
University of Rochester
Admission rates for domestic US citizen students are in the low single digits; for international applicants, admission rates are negligible. (One international student every 5-10 years.)
While some of the programs may offer financial aid to international applicants for the undergraduate portion of the program, international applicants must demonstrate they are able to pay the full cost of their medical education.
That’s because the Canadian government offers education loans for Canadian citizens who attend a US medical school. (IOW, the Canadian government guarantees Canadian citizens can pay for their medical education.)
Citizens of other countries must prove they can pay full med school costs as a condition of acceptance into a BA/MD program.
@ thumper1 : Thanks for the info !
Yes, we can fund education here, My D is also having good grades/ETC
She wants to pursue degree in medicine, Only thing is she is international student
And am not sure now ( Bs/md) or later (after completion of her UG) , what are her chances to get in med school?
@ WayOutWestMom : Thnx !
One international student every 5-10 years. ??? really ?
we are ready to show/demonstrate upfront that we can pay the full cost of their medical education , but not sure how to proceed further because of this international visa status ?
Yes, really. Extremely few international are accepted into BA/MD programs. It’s a rare occurrence.
Unless your daughter has a green card, her odds of gaining an admission to a US MD school are quite poor, even via the traditional route.
During the 2020-2021 application cycle, 1158 internationals applied to US MD schools; only 113 matriculated.
https://www.aamc.org/media/6036/download
https://www.aamc.org/media/6041/download
As for how to proceed:
Your daughter is welcome to apply to the 7 BA/MD programs that consider international applicants. However, you should assume those are all very, very long shots and that she won’t be accepted to any of those. (That would be true even if she were a US citizen.)
Have her apply to colleges that she is interested in attending and are good fit for her. Make sure she has a Plan B career option that isn’t medicine. (This is also the same advice I give to every potential pre-med–including both my own daughters.)
Does your daughter have any realistic pathway to becoming a US permanent resident within the next 4 years?
Does your daughter want to practice medicine in the US?
Would your daughter consider studying medicine in another country beside the US?
It’s generally recommended that internationals who wish to practice medicine in the US attend medical school in their home country** and apply for a US medical residency via the ECFMG/NRMP Match process. Her odds of actually becoming a doctor in the US are much higher via that path.
** Or a few select other countries that have established pathways for students who wish to complete a US medical residency. These countries include: Australia, Canada, Ireland, Israel, plus the Big 3 Caribbean medical schools. (St George, AUA, Ross)
You asked about DACA in another thread.
Your daughter isn’t eligible for DACA status because she is in the US on a H4 visa. DACA is only available for individuals who were brought to the US illegally as young children.
US Medical schools are obligated to educate US citizens first.
There are thousands of qualified US students who are begging to get a spot in a medical school program. Thousands are rejected; not because they don’t meet the requirements, but because there is just no room.
A number of US Hospitals/medical schools receive huge research and care grants from the government (NIH, etc.) that help the coffers of US hospitals. Those funds require participation by US citizens. (My daughter was working on a research project, sponsored by the National Institute of Health, at our instate public school.)
In the U.S., citizens come first, and since there is not enough space for all of the thousands of US undergraduates who want to enter medical school, international students cannot be prioritized over US citizens, no matter how much money they have. No matter how much medical “expertise” they have.
Would your home country prioritize a US citizen?? Most countries wont.
Your best option is to have your child study in your home country if both of you want her to become a physician.
This is what I find about the last matriculated class for 2020 in BU med school. You may similarly want to checkout other schools profiles that offer BS/MD programs and send them emails or call for any clarifications you may need.
If your child has stellar credentials, I wouldn’t rule it out either in traditional or BS/MD route. A word of caution though, the stats required for those applying with ORM background (mostly Asian origin) will be significantly higher than the average figures quoted.
https://www.bumc.bu.edu/busm/admissions/introduction-to-busm/class-profile/
@pbsmd11 It would be virtually impossible for an international applicant to get admission into a U S medical school, IMO. It is not an reliable option, IMO. Keep other options open like going back to your home country for medical school ( India may have some preference quota for NRIs in medical schools if applicable to you).
As a parent what is your VISA status (H1B Visa ??) ? Is your GC petition pending ? Will it be granted before your kid turns 18 years of age ? After 18 years, your D is considered an adult.
Please get professional advise from an immigration attorney.
The URL does not specifically provide any information about international students selected in BU SMED.
The simple answer is, if your D’s visa status changes to a GC holder before the start of medical school i.e. in next 4-5 years, she can go to medical school in US. As a GC holder, she would be eligible for most loans given to US medical students.
Not only this, but medical residencies in the US are almost entirely funded by the federal government via the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS).
And all US MSTP (MD/PhD) programs are 100% funded by the NIH which mandates ALL fund recipients must be US citizens.
Priority for medical education & training is given to US citizens and permanent residents.
Dang it, as many Medicare forms that I signed, when I was at my hospital, I can’t believe I completely forgot about that! My supervisor was on me, all the time, whenever I had a Medicare form rejected. It was almost automatic with every patient!
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