<p>Are bt and emule download strictly prohibited in UMN?
what would happen if got caught?
=D</p>
<p>I actually just talked to a guy who was downloading music…(LimeWire i think? Or something similar) while using ResNet. </p>
<p>And here’s the stuff that will happen if you use them and get caught:</p>
<p>Copyright Violations</p>
<p>Actions taken if you violate copyright law:</p>
<pre><code>1st Offense: ResNet Internet Access is disabled for 2 weeks, individual is referred to Housing/Residential Life Judicial Office.
2nd Offense*: ResNet Internet Access is disabled & individual is referred to Student Judicial Affairs Office for possible disciplinary action. Student Judicial Affairs determines when access is restored.
- A file sharing/excessive use warning in combination with a Copyright Infringement notice is treated as a 2nd offense.
</code></pre>
<p>There’s an (illegal) program that some students made called The Hub. My brother says it’s the most amazing downloading program he’s ever used. Apparently he can download entire movies in just a few minutes. I don’t know a whole lot about, but seriously check it out. My brother never uses bittorrent anymore.
[The</a> Hub Information](<a href=“http://www.umnp2p.com/]The”>http://www.umnp2p.com/)</p>
<p>Oh, and he has something like 200GB of stuff, has been using the program for over a year, and had never had any trouble with getting caught or anything.</p>
<p>^
Watch someone read it in this forum and squeal. Or maybe it’s a trap…hm…</p>
<p>Haha, no. The administration knows about it too. I think it’s pretty common knowledge, they just haven’t done anything about it. My brother used to write for The Daily (the campus newspaper) and even interviewed the creator for an article. </p>
<p>Of course there are always risks with online downloading, but my brother hasn’t had any problems, and doesn’t know anyone else who has.</p>
<p>i was wondering about torrent sites too…but like, how can they catch you? anyone have some stories/experience to share?</p>
<p>Have any of you been following the case of the Swedish file sharers who are now spending a year in jail complete with a big fine? Why would you go to school with the idea that you are going to break the rules and hope you don’t get caught? Just because it happens infrequently doesn’t mean it won’t happen to you. If it is time to make an example of someone and it happens to be you, then it is your life that is going to go seriously off-track. Many thieves and burglers don’t get caught either, but, many do. If you think it is only a little theft, how would you feel if you are the holder of the copyright and you are being ripped off on a massive scale? What you do in your own house can have consequences, but when you know that the U has policies about file-sharing and you go there with the idea that they don’t apply to you, trouble awaits. They don’t catch every speeder, but those who speed all the time get caught eventually.</p>
<p>well,
i guess i have never mentioned copyrighted materials in this thread~~</p>
<p>@Denquist: You know that file-sharing itself isn’t illegal right? People share their creations and other non-copyrighted material all the time. I don’t think anyone is going to school with a goal to download all the movies and songs they can get their hands on…and btw, the swedish men are (probably, but still not certainly) going to jail because they hosted one of the largest sites in existence that catered to those wanting to download copyrighted content. It’s not as if they were college students looking to score one or two free songs.</p>
<p>Although come on guys, when you use BT it’s almost always for something that’s illegal. If you wanted to get things the right way you’d use Netflix or Itunes. We’re just warning you that ResNet IS watched…so just be careful with what/how/how much you download.</p>
<p>hehe, you’re right…I just wanted to make a point. I definitely have used BT for legal stuff though, so I’m always a little sad to see it banned completely.</p>
<p>Personally,I am a heavy BT user,but other than top 40 and billboard hot 100 charts i dont really download music with a few exceptions of some flac jams that i almost certainly end up buying i am of the opinion that other than the songs artist put up on their myspace page for free the rest of the album is always crappy.now to the critics,as much as i don’t care about music i don’t think you guys are in a position to judge.you obviously don’t have a clue.some of these people that you are calling thieves actually end up buying the albums if they download them and find them to be good enough just to show appreciation for the artists who actually put true effort in their work.if the album is ****ty like most of them are then they won’t buy it and their money unlike for the guy who just bought it without taking it for a test drive remains safe with them.i also won’t go pay for a movie ticket to a movie simply based on a nicely put trailer if the movie is available on the internet then i would totally check it out first before paying for that ticket only to regret it later on.
I believe though that my torrent traffic is mostly comprised of tv downloads which by the way are aired and webcast freely.
So without judging could someone just say whether the U does any traffic shaping like say throttling or blocking bittorrent traffic?
Also Someone could clarify this but from what am gathering it seems like the U doesn’t cooperate with the RIAA/MPAA,coz its strange that as big as the U is its conspicuously missing from their list of top notice addresses
about emule,i wouldn’t advice on it coz unlike private BT trackers its easier for your IP to be smoked out hence identity,they have tools for that,just check their BT conviction fail rate compared to those of other means of file sharing.
Also to the critics,stop peddling the name of thepiratebay’s conviction as an example without proper information.if you didn’t know this,the judge who convicted them apparently had a conflict of interests.he organises conferences against freedom of information and sits and chairs various anti filesharing organisations in sweden.so basically he just got owned and his bias ruling based on prejudice and bribery will certainly be over turned on appeal.
still cant wait for fall,after all this place is ranked a cool 13th most wired and p2p friendly campus in the whole USA :)</p>
<p>Sez, your justification for downloading copyrighted material, while understandable, is still illegal. It is a form of theft. And if the U has rules about the sites you can use and you (or others) violate them you may never be caught, but then again you might, with very little to say in the way of a defense. There have been other prosecutions besides the case in Sweden, that happens to be the most recently publicized. No one knows what will happen on appeal in that case, either. The thing that amazes me about kids your age is that you feel you are entitled to this stuff because you can get it. Once again, consider this from the perspective of the bands and singers. They are putting in their time, effort, skills and talent into a recording and they are taking the time to copyright the material so that if others want it they have to pay. That is how they make their living. Everyone who illegally downloads their material is stealing income from them. If you had a band, wouldn’t you object to this?</p>
<p>[IRAA</a> Top 25 piracy colleges&the top 20 most wired and p2p friendly colleges. - FileSharing Talk](<a href=“BitTorrent”>IRAA Top 25 piracy colleges&the top 20 most wired and p2p friendly colleges.)</p>
<p>XD, the lists are really interesting~/</p>
<p>^^ interesting indeed 
…quite some work there by that guy.
/hides :p</p>
<p>@denquist,as i see it you and i will never come to agree on this.you are a firm believer of copyright regardless of the product quality and i understand that as much as i disagree.and yes i do think of those bands and i think its sad when people pirate their stuff without the intent of buying,but then again if you look at it,the artists who yap the loudest are people who make ****ty music that honestly nobody wants to buy,so its no suprise when they see their music being circulated but not seeing anything in terms of sales but on the contrary am sure people like taylor swift,chris brown or the other big name quality artists don’t feel as those crappy frootyloops bedroom studio artists,people download their stuff and yet you hear their album sales are also up.i suggest you do some research if you don’t believe me a simple google search would be enough.so what does this tell you,people whom you think are thieves actually aren’t they are just people who are careful about what they spend their money on…and u dont want me started on movies…piracy is what you hear happening with the somalis.</p>
<p>Well, Sez, one person’s crappy music is another person’s fave so I don’t think the crappy music defense will hold up in court or more likely an adminstrative hearing at the U. but if it makes you happy go for it.</p>
<p>Well,i just realised that i wont be downloading most of the things i wanted to download while at the U anyways coz most of it is actually readily streamed online for free provided u got a good internet connection 
but i still dont understand why you dont see the validity of my argument…its been proven time and time again that the more an album or a movie is downloaded online the more the sales are when that particular album or movie hits the markets.lets face it if i dont intend on buying the movie,i wont buy it with or without its availability on p2p networks.but if i do intend on buying it i will buy it with or without its availability on these p2p networks…and if u didn’t know,film companies like warner bros. and 20th century have been known to use this trend to their advantage,sometimes they send out screeners for a bunch of folks to test and when they get feedback that the films are crappy,they turn to the very tool that u seemingly appear not to like,p2p.they leak the potential box office flop hoping to create hype hence sales when the film is officially released,otherwise how do you explain the availability of a workprint of the upcoming wolverine movie in the interwebz already,this totally has to be an inside job.
So no,i dont think filesharing at all hurts.simply because if i don’t have the will nor the money to buy the material i just won’t buy it regardless of its availablility on the net.on the other if i have the will and the money to buy the material then with or without its availablility on the internet i will buy it.
Radiohead just had one of their most successful albums coz unlike the industry which is refusing to go with the times it chose to go with the logic i put a few lines above.their album is for sale at whatever price you can afford,yes even you could go buy it for as little as nothing if thats what you think its worth or for $1000 if thats what you think the album is worth.
Hope to engage you sometime say in the debate club on this come fall,coz trust me there is more to it than meets the eye.for crying out loud 70% of all internet traffic goes to peer to peer downloads,dont u think something is seriously wrong with the current model of dealing with this?</p>
<p>okay people let’s all agree to disagree :)</p>