BU VS. BC VS. Northeastern

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<p>You are absolutely correct as i mentioned that my perspective will be skewed towards NEU. Im sure that BU places students on Wallstreet. Im simply stating rational of why NEU students will place better. Most of these students do internships at several bulge brackets, hedge funds, mutual funds and have very impressive resume’s coming out of college. I would have to say that NEU has a leg up especially in finance I can’t speak for the other majors.</p>

<p>anyone will agree that northeastern’s co-op program is a wonderful opportunity to build your resume. bu definitely doesn’t have that, but i promise that it is highly probable that you can find a valuable internship, including through smg and career services. since bu is such a large school, you just really need to learn to use your resources wisely. here’s the final point: BU, NE, and BC are all excellent schools were you can be successful in your career if you make the most of your college experience. don’t choose between the 3 for which will get you the higher paying job, because like college admissions it’s kind of a crapshoot and also depends on your personality, interviews, etc. go where you’ll be happiest and where you think you can make the most out of the program. i have loved bu and the opportunities its given me, but many will say the same about their own respective universities. choose what’s best for YOU. go to these types of forums for each school you’re looking at and get everyone’s take on them and make your own choice. and unlike what bu evaluator will tell you, if you don’t like the choice you make, you can always transfer.</p>

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<p>You know, for a supposed Ivy grad, your spelling and grammar is pretty bad.</p>

<p>ALI i agree with you 100% its all subjective. All three programs have their own perks. Diontechristmas i’ll be sure to be cognizant of my spelling and grammar going forward on a public forum. I’m not bashing BU by any means i’m just adding perspective. BU is a fantastic school.</p>

<p>It’s funny but 35-40 years ago, people called BU a commuter school. It then went upmarket and became a serious institution. Northeastern 10-15 years ago was still in a big sense an actual commuter school, with a big percentage of students going at night and part-time. They’ve invested a lot to build their campus, have cut most of the part-time stuff, and they have an aggressive PR program to tout what they’ve done. Good for them. That doesn’t mean BU has grown worse but that Northeastern has improved. It’s a mark of the PR that the co-op program is now considered an attraction; before it was more of a way to have local kids go to school as they could afford, working for a term and then going to school for a term. In reality though, you should understand that any good program will include not only internships but work with local business. At BU, for example, you do ads and PR for local firms while in school. Northeastern has smartly realized they needed to play up what distinguished them. </p>

<p>IN terms of pecking order, if you go to a good high school in the Boston area, it runs basically like this:</p>

<p>Harvard / MIT
Wellesley - top woman’s choice
Tufts - smaller than BU / BC, hangs its hat on its IR program
BU / BC - like choosing between Coke & Pepsi
Northeastern - they constantly (and I mean constantly*) tout their business program, which is the best way for them to leverage their distinguishing co-op feature.</p>

<p>I didn’t put Brandeis in, but it’s really at the Tufts level in the order. Then you have specialty schools, notably Emerson and Babson, which don’t really fit on the scale at all. The Tufts / Brandeis level is really not the same as the BU / BC level; the former two schools are smaller, liberal arts schools that don’t offer the same array of programs. The BU / BC level is then interesting because BU is a university, a major research facility, while BC is more like a larger Tufts in the scale of its academic ambitions. (BU has 13,000 graduate students.) The two are linked partly because they have two letter names, partly because they’re rivals in hockey (which matters in MA), and partly because the region is heavily Catholic and thus BC gets a lot of attention. </p>

<p>BU occupies the middle ground of the 3 actual universities on the list. BU’s graduate programs are more extensive and better respected - which matters in the real world. BU draws more dollars for research, etc. </p>

<p>I’ve lived here for decades and in the local good schools, you can allocate the smart kids generally by this pecking order. And I mean “generally”; a musician, artist or engineering student and other kinds is going to BU over Tufts or Brandeis. Catholics will usually choose BC over BU or Tufts (and obviously Brandeis). If a kid wants some of what COM has, they might go to Emerson - which is more artsy overall by a long shot.</p>

<p>*Seriously; they run radio ads, have ads at sports arenas, etc. It makes sense. Northeastern has raised its out-of-state numbers a lot but it’s still 1/3+ MA residents, which means it’s much more a local school. BU is about 21% MA, which is similar to Tufts. When you exclude some BU programs, you find BU is even more non-local.</p>

<p>I agree with your assessment but disagree that NEU is known for business. Business is strong but also architecture/Engineering/CJ/Health Sciences dominate business in terms of coops when looking at the league tables. I remember when I went to high school it was always seen that BU and NEU were interchangable and BC was superior over the other two. Again its all subjective. My father keeps on saying how surprised he is with BC’s current ranking. I guess athletics ameliarated their image.</p>

<p>I would say of the ones you listed, engineering has the biggest profile in town. I do know a few kids who go there for that. They did not get into BU because they weren’t very good students overall but were good in math. </p>

<p>Health sciences are known more in the field than generally and I think Northeastern suffers because they don’t have a medical school; they have a nursing school. </p>

<p>I don’t know where you went to school, but I’ve always said the differences between school x and y are negligible when it comes to your life. You should go where you fit, where you can afford, where you feel comfortable. BTW, I feel that also applies to most Ivy grads, though it is an advantage to go to a Harvard or Yale.</p>

<p>Lerg, you obviously have a problem with Northeastern. My brother is actually in the engineering program and is hardly a “Bad student”. Thats a great way to implicitly state that the general student body at NEU get rejected from BU. I really feel bad for you. The sad thing is you ■■■■■ these forums to uphold the “Prestige” of BU. BU and NEU have no prestige sorry to break it to you. I know of students in high school who have gotten into BU 6 years ago who did not break a 1000 on the boards. So please stop ranting and boasting about the prestige of BU.</p>

<p>I’m not sure why neither BU nor NEU would have no prestige when both are in the top four for garnering the highest number of apps every year. Clearly there is something about these schools that draws students. They’re both well-known.</p>

<p>And NEU IS known for business. You can’t deny it’s all about the Co-Op. I’ve had friends who’ve transferred out of NEU because it is so business-oriented. Not that this says anything bad about the school. Just that it is very internship/entrepreneurial geared.</p>

<p>It’s okay, BUBailey. I really doubt a person who writes this badly is an Ivy graduate and he or she is emotional about his or her brother, which is understandable. </p>

<p>But for the record, I don’t post in other forums - except where I have connections and thus reasons to post. I don’t claim BU is super-prestigious or anything like that. In fact, if you read what I said above, I put BU in the middle above Northeastern and below a bunch of other schools. If anyone has read what I say about prestige it’s this: it doesn’t matter. What matters is you. I object to almost every post about prestige, not because BU is so prestigious - which I never say - but because it doesn’t matter unless you go to Harvard or MIT or a handful of other schools.*</p>

<p>As for Northeastern, the simple fact - even noted in a Boston Globe story this week - is that it was a commuter school until recently. You rode the T and saw ads for studying at night there. For a while, they claimed to be one of the largest schools in the country - because they had so many part-time students (tens of thousands doing work some time & over time). This was 10 years ago, not 40 years ago. I also noted they cut enrollment and built a campus and are promoting themselves like crazy, which is smart.</p>

<p>If you even look at what I specifically said, I noted the kids I know at Northeastern engineering were talented in math - and, btw, I meant BC calculus quality (which is the hard version of AP math). I didn’t say they were stupid but that they weren’t overall particularly good students. That’s a very different thing because some people are lopsided toward math ability. </p>

<p>*And let me say, again, that having a Yale degree doesn’t give you a ticket. It helps get you in doors at first, early on in your career, but it doesn’t mean you succeed. That’s up to you. You are what matters in your life.</p>

<p>ummm…BC is clearly the highest ranked of the 3. shouldn’t even be a debate. it’s MUCH harder to get into than the others.</p>

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<p>That means nothing.</p>

<p>In another forum, there was a discussion about research dollars. (Kid claiming that UConn is sooo much better than UMass and gets sooo much more money for research. UConn is perfectly good school but they actually get 35% less in external research grants than UMass.) BU is a major research school. Last year, it received $336M in external grants. BC is not a major research school; last year it received $44M in external grants. I’m not saying BC sucks but that there are many ways to look at things. </p>

<p>Northeastern, to finish the point, last year had about $40M in external grants. That’s from their website. </p>

<p>Note that BU is upper tier of research universities but not near the top. </p>

<p>Note: schools publish research figures every year.</p>

<p>To give an unbiased look on the matter. As redglory had, I got into both BU and NEU, as well as Villanova school of business. However when I was looking towards the future and what each school had to offer, I felt as though NEU stood out. Yes Villanova is highly ranked, but that comes with a very affordable price of 52,000 a year…oh wait, its not. Even so, I really wanted to be in Boston and pretty much fell in Love with NEU. If your looking for straight business AG, then I’d say go with NEU. For all the people claiming the negligble difference in rankings…16 spots is a lot, and the co-op program sets it apart. Diantechristmas you might have the most biased/ tool like responses possible. You are obviously biased becuase you attend or are planning to attend BU. I got into both, and for me academicaly and campus wise Northeastern was far better. So AG, I’d say either NEU or BC.</p>

<p>“This is so funny…, you can succeed wherever you go. In the end, it’s all about what you do individually. Enjoy wherever you go, sheesh, it’s really not that serious.”</p>

<p>Odin, this is about the most logical post I have seen on CC. </p>

<p>Actually there have been studies done that prove that choice of college has much less impact on eventual success than people think. People who are intelligent and motivated are generally successful regardless of college choice.</p>

<p>Legnom, your list is wrong. BC has a better reputation than BU, not that that is a big deal. I am just pointing it out because you gave your own prestige rankings. BU is closer to NEU in reputation.</p>

<p>Why does anyone care about diversity? To me it should be a non-issue. If you are a minority, I could see a comfort issue but shouldn’t be a major issue imo.</p>

<p>i agree 100% with harry balzak…although his name is harry balzak. btw, if i remember correctly diontechristmas actually started at BU and transferred out b/c it wasn’t for him, so him giving BU props says a lot in my opinion. but it’s all about what you like and what you prefer. NU is the best choice for agamberg, BU is the best for others.</p>

<p>Lergnom is some delusional woman, who will defend the prestige of UMass to the death… LMAO… She also says UMass is better than UConn, so it is obvious that she completely ignores the rankings… She ranks schools solely on the basis of research dollars. I would not pay too much attention to what she has to say…</p>

<p>NEU has always been a favorite of mine, because of its co-op program… Out of three, though, I think BC will offer more post-grad opportunities. I’ve had friends graduate from all three business programs, and from what I have seen my BC friends have the better jobs and more of them are still employed right now. Saying that, though, I don’t think you can wrong with any of three.</p>

<p>I will only add that BU, hands-down, is in a MUCH better section of Boston. I’ve lived here all my life and although the area in which Northeastern is situated (Roxbury/Fenway/S.End) is better than it was 20-30 years ago, it’s still in a very sketchy area. Not NEU bashing at all – think it’s a very good school – but really doesn’t have the academic standing in this city that BU enjoys. That, coupled with its less desireable location, leads me to steer you in the direction of Commonwealth Avenue. If, however, you enjoy a more “traditional” campus and aren’t put-off by its Catholic identity, BC is a wonderful college.</p>