Bus-A 100 ?

<p>I am taking this course right now and I am experiencing a lot of difficulty. I know a lot of people drop it and then take it again but I am not sure I will think it is any easier the second time. Can someone recommend a strategy that worked for them, or a tutor? I tried the extra help given by the graduate teaching assistant and he said he couldn't remember a lot of the material and was not helpful. Please help!!</p>

<p>I did not do too well in that class, but I just devoted a lot of time and effort to the material and treated it as a 3cr. class. That is the only advice I can give if the tutor did not help (maybe try another tutor/go into office hours a lot?).</p>

<p>If you are a direct admit already, an inconvenient but less stressful solution would be to take A100 at IUPUI next semester if you have a car and can get away from campus from about 4:30 to 8:30 in order to take it from 6-7:15 (meets only one night a week) in Indianapolis. Much, much easier there. And if you are in Hutton take the honors versions of A201 and A202, or take them at a cc in the summer if they will transfer. It will still be hard, but the grading is extremely lenient, and nearly impossible to get less than a B-. If you are not in Hutton, try to get a 3.7+ your first semester at IU and then apply to Hutton and reap this benefit as well as many other ones, including being able to take X202 Technology honors. My son is taking honors technology and in his five-person group everybody but one member made the Founder’s Day list, so the group work is going very smoothly to say the least. He couldn’t have got such a great group in X201.</p>

<p>I’m not a business major, but my HHC mentor is and I was asking him about A100 the other day. He says that the material you discuss in class or read for homework isn’t necessarily what’s on the test, and the best way to study for tests is by doing the practice tests, since they are tests from previous years.</p>

<p>Thanks for the responses.
Bthomp1: I am direct admit but have no car but thanks for the idea. I am not in Hutton, I was hoping to qualify but right now it looks doubtful.</p>

<p>linz1990: you are so right the practice midterms are completely different than what we did in class.</p>

<p>maxellis: thanks I will treat it as a 3 credit class going forward , I hope I pass the midterm , the Kelley LLC had a review session but most of the students teaching it didn’t remember the material</p>

<p>LizzyB2013, I think one of the ways that Kelley makes A100 a weed out class is to deliberately not lecture on everything you need to know on the test. They want potential Kelley students to show initiative by teaching themselves the content, which really takes a lot of work for a one hour class, but they want Kelley students to work hard and show initiative. And yes, from all the posts about A100 on this board, taking practice tests over and over is the best way to accomplish this.</p>

<p>My d is also struggling with this class. When she sought out help from some graduate students, they told her that professors in upper level accounting classes tell their students to forget what they learned in A100. If this is true, what’s the point? It seems this class should be revised .</p>

<p>It’s not that they should forget; it’s just that by the time you complete A201 and A202 all the things from A100 are ingrained in your mind and you would laugh at the questions you got wrong in A100. A100 lays the foundation for the other accounting pre reqs.</p>

<p>Also, none of my upper level accounting professors have told me to forget A100. If I didn’t know how to make an income statement or know that Assets=Liablities+Stockholders Equity I would be completely lost. It is a tough class (as I said, I did not do well in it), but it was very useful for me.</p>

<p>Evidently the mid-term scores will be posted tomorrow (Sunday). Just curious… What’s the strategy for keeping vs. dropping the course? My D and her friends think they should keep going if they get a solid C or better on the mid-term and drop if below that. Make sense to those of you who have been through this? And is the strategy different if you’re trying for the business honors program?</p>

<p>Maxellis,
Although what you say sounds logical, my daughter tried to get help from 2 graduate assistants who were unable to do some of the questions on a practice midterm for A100Apparently they didn’t find A100 easy despite their completion of much higher level accounting courses. This doesn’t make sense to me. </p>

<p>Tulare asks an excellent question, is a C or better high enough to continue with the course?
Good luck to all who took this midterm!</p>

<p>Yes, I need the answer to this question,too. I am so nervous about my grade, I don’t think I got above a C , should I stay with it ?</p>

<p>I think whether to drop has a lot to do with many other factors-- what other classes you are taking, whether you are already admitted to Kelley, whether you are trying to get into business honors . . .</p>

<p>I think any semester you take A100 that you should only take 13 hours total. It you are taking 16 credit hours and having trouble with A100, then maybe it is a good idea to drop A100 and take it in the Spring and only take 13 hours total in the Spring.</p>

<p>If you are not a direct admit and have only a C at mid-term, I would drop it, as it is unlikely that you will raise your final grade to a B. Kelley really wants everyone to get all B’s (B-'s are bad) in order to get into Kelley. This is a relatively new standard and reflects the ever increasing number of students trying to get into Kelley, as Kelley can afford to be more selective each year. A lot of people do much better the second time around taking the class, as they are not surprised by it, have seen a lot of the material the first time around, and know that they have to do all the learning on their own (or with a good study group) in order to get a B or better. And a B+ the second time you take the class, with a “W” the first time you take it, would look much better on your Kelley application than a B+ and a C- or lower. And a C-, even for direct admits, is, for practical purposes, as bad as a D or F, as you need a C in the class for A100 to be able to take A201 and A202-- which are both I-Core prerequisites.</p>

<p>In terms of wanting to get into business honors, a C on the mid-term would make it unlikely that you would get much more than a C+ or B- for the whole course, which would not look good on your business honors application. An exception to this is if you took A201 in the spring semester and got a good grade to offset the A100 grade, but that is a very difficult class and many people applying for business honors don’t take A201 until their sophomore year for fear of hurting their gpa, unless they are in HHC and have enough credits earned before registration in November (you would probably need at least 15-20 AP credits if you are a freshman) to get into A205 Honors Financial Accounting, a class that has difficult content but which is almost impossible to get less than a B- in. It is only offered in the spring semesters.</p>

<p>I take the view that if you can pass the course, you should finish it up now, rather than have to retake it. The problem is that if you do get below a C in the course overall, it looks bad on your record, even if you do retake it. So this means that you have to do well for sure on the second test. My own son had a B- on the first test and finished with a C+ overall.</p>

<p>As far as doing well on this course, there have been threads about this course suggesting how to do well on it previously on this site. It is important to know that the first half of the course is on financial accounting and especially on doing well on knowing how to put together a “Statement of Cash Flows and Uses” statement, and the second half of the course is primarily on managerial accounting, and there is a lot of breakeven analysis that is the basis for some test questions.</p>

<p>Here’s a place to learn some of what one needs to know for the second half of the class (just the breakeven stuff only):</p>

<p><a href=“Redirect Notice”>Redirect Notice;

<p>(slides 1-13 only)</p>

<p>And here’s a place to take a quick quiz on this area (CVP analysis) only:
<a href=“http://wps.prenhall.com/bp_horngren_cost_13/85/21857/5595405.cw/index.html[/url]”>http://wps.prenhall.com/bp_horngren_cost_13/85/21857/5595405.cw/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I’ve also “bumped” two old threads on A100 to help others interested in the topic.</p>

<p>Calcruzer, Thanks for all of your advice and help. The link in your older post to the McGraw Hill website isn’t working, could you please give the title of the product you thought would be helpful for A100? Thanks.</p>

<p>I’ve been unable to find the book linked originally, but probably if you go through the first 8 chapters or so of this book:</p>

<p>[The</a> McGraw-Hill 36-hour accounting … - Google Books](<a href=“The McGraw-Hill 36-hour Accounting Course - Robert L. Dixon, Harold E. Arnett - Google Books”>The McGraw-Hill 36-hour Accounting Course - Robert L. Dixon, Harold E. Arnett - Google Books)</p>

<p>you would at least cover the first half of the course.</p>

<p>Financial Acct is the first half of the course, Managerial Acct is the second half of the course (along with the CVP analysis mentioned above).</p>

<p>The problem is that trying to cover all of this in a regular 14 hour course just doesn’t do it. That’s why I suggested in the original thread (the one Waverly started) that you should start studying before the class starts.</p>

<p>I’m a Sophomore DA in Kelley. I took A100 last Spring 1st 8 Weeks.</p>

<p>It really is not as bad as people make it out to be. I got an A+ (Over 100%) in the class. It required a ton of self study time but it can be done. Just go over the practice tests… do EVERY SINGLE ONE Vivian posts. If you’re still not getting the concepts, get a tutor.</p>

<p>Any suggestions for a tutor in this class?</p>

<p>From other posts, it sounds like it might be difficult to find someone who is familiar with the specific material that is being tested.</p>

<p>I just took A100 during the last 8 wks, finishing the class with over 100%. The material is fresh in my head, and I’m looking for students to tutor. Perhaps we can arrange something.</p>

<p>How does it work and what is the cost?
Is this scheduled through the business school or direct?
On a regular schedule to supplement weekly instruction or some other interval?
Does it make sense to prepare with any of the books / supplemental material mentioned on this site [over break before classes start in Janauary]?<br>
Does the teacher make a difference [Winston or Owen]?</p>

<p>My daughter used a grad student who was the teachers assistant for the class. If you need name and cost, private message me.</p>