<p>Hi. I visited NYU over the summer and I loved it. However i do love the campus-feel as well, i cant decide. Anyways my question is about stern. I really want to go to umich (got accepted already) but the problem is that there is REALLY tough competiton to apply their business school after 2 years, while nyu goes directly into the business program which is nice. So how intense is the business program, is it like studying every single days for hours and hours? Also how much do you expect your overall gpa to drop from high school (any current student experiences). (i have a 4.15 weighted). Also are their honors classes that are weighted (A=5.0 B=4.0 etc)? THANKS so much for your help!!</p>
<p>nyu has a better undergrad program for business anyways.</p>
<p>Actually, according to US news, its just under:
1. University of Pennsylvania (Wharton)<br>
2. Massachusetts Inst. of Technology (Sloan)
3. University of CaliforniaBerkeley (Haas)
University of MichiganAnn Arbor
5. New York University (Stern)</p>
<p>Oh well, if that's what USNEWS says, then it must be right!! Obviously, then Umich ugrad is better regardless of a significant gap between gpa/SAt scores being ross and stern students.</p>
<p>I just dont know if its worth it reapply to umich's bschool b/c the competion is so tough, at NYU i would be garunteed the bschool if i got in.</p>
<p>Either way will be tough and every class will be curved, and the pool of intelligence will be much higher at Stern</p>
<p>I'm sort of in the same shoes as you, trying to decide between umich and stern. I still say that Stern is more prestigious, and as the other posts say, the people there have better credentials.</p>
<p>I think NYU is great for finance especially and if you definetly want to live in NYC. If ou want a job internationally, NYU isnt known (my friends in europe say that umich and upenn are recognized as the top business skls and no ones even heard of NYU). If Umich was a 4 yrs program, i'd definetly pick it (i love the campus feel) however since this is not the case, I'm in a dillema. </p>
<p>Redhare: Have you heard from NYU yet (about ur acceptance)?</p>
<p>Nihila10,</p>
<p>Regarding international name recognition, I would have to beg to differ with your friends. I worked in I-banking for 4 years (I work at a hedge fund now)... and I've worked in NY, Hong Kong, and London. I can safely say NYU is extremely well known internationally. Whether its with the head of a Hong Kong bank or a random girl in an upscale London lounge, NYU is certainly heard of (btw NYU has more international study abroad centers than any other school...its nicknamed Global U..have you every seen NYU's Florence manor?). </p>
<p>Now I had a liberal arts major so I didn't go to Stern, but I have the confidence to say that Stern clearly has a bigger brand name than UMich abroad (Wharton is obviously Wharton). In NY, it goes without saying that NYU is a bigger name than UMich. UMich will probably have the edge over Stern in midwestern cities (eg. Chi-town or Detroit). On the west coast and Cali, NYU probably has more influence (I know plenty of NYU alums in LA and SF). </p>
<p>Basically, you have figure out where you want to work and what you want to study. If you want to study finance OR work anywhere besides the midwest...take Stern over UMich. </p>
<p>Best of luck and keep us posted.</p>
<p>Thanks jwblue</p>
<p>I dont want to work in the midwest, so I'm leaning a bit toward stern, especially since I love nyc. Just a question: was the campus (or lack of) a problem for you? Was there enough socialzing going on, or did most ppl not know of eachother?</p>
<p>You know, it never bothered me. Unless you absolutely need to be in a rural area, its probably not going to be a problem that NYU is immersed in Manhattan. I just posted on this the other day; while NYU's campus is not of the UMich type, NYU certainly has a large presence in the Greenwich Village area, and on Washington Sq. specifically where the school owns everything around the park. When you consider the amount of facilities NYU has and the amount of real estate it owns (its the 2nd largest landowner in New York after the Catholic church), it probably has more of a campus than many other schools who claim to have such. </p>
<p>There is a ton of socializing as well if you actually make even the slighest of an effort to seek it out. NYU students tend to do a ton of partying whether its in the dorms or in local bars (which basically cater to college students).</p>
<p>Actually, niihla, I didn't get into stern yet. I did regular decision. I'm still confident that I'll get in tho since I match/slightly exceed the others who already got in ED. Yet it's still the best school i applied to for undergraduate studies. (In my opinion, Michigan's admission doesn't get as hard until after two years.)</p>
<p>I'm actually quite suprised NYU isn't internationally known. If Usnews rankings mean anything, it was ranked #2 in international business. I was told by some counselor at an academy that if I want to do business abroad, that I should pick NYU over umich. (However, that is not what I'm going to do. I am geared toward accounting or finance.) What exactly do you wish to do in business school? Stern is especially great for finance. Still, any recruiter will give you credit for anything you do there, in fact. Both schools have prestige, but I think Stern has a bigger name. If you consider the two schools equal in every way, then you will have to decide based on the location. Maybe NYU will be better in your case. Also, if tuition/cost is not a problem at all, why not just go for Stern?</p>
<p>About city life: Like jwblue said, you don't have to let the city be an intimidating place. There's a place for everyone. If you seek out a social life there, you will most likely find it.</p>
<p>Niihla 10, </p>
<p>Just to prove how uninformed your friends in Europe are, take a look at this link-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.triumemba.org/%5B/url%5D">http://www.triumemba.org/</a></p>
<p>From what I understand, Stern is on its way up... don't expect it to remain at number five forever. Also, the new undergrad dean at stern is trying to to make it more of a community. For example, during orientation week, freshman are now assigned to cohorts- groups of 20 or so students- or participate in activities with eachother.</p>
<p>Stern is definitely on the way up. Dean Blount-Lyon (great lady, very candid) told us at student council that SAT scores from this year's ED class has been bumped up from 1410 to 1440. And that's ED, not RD. Stern accepted WAY too many people last year. they underestimated the matriculation rate, and now this year's freshman class is well over 500 kids, so expect this year's acceptance rate to go down. Major shifts are occuring at Stern, from reorganizing the role of the Student council to creating new student advisory boards to discuss the direction Stern should take. Our curriculum is one of the most inventive in the nation, from Business and Its Publics lecture to the junior year international study project required of every stern student that doesn't go abroad. Although I can't comment on UMich, expect Stern to go up in rankings, I would guess up to #3 within a few years.</p>
<p>cardinal, will you have more information on RD acceptance rate and average sat score when it comes available? does average sat score go towards all accepted or who matriculate during RD? </p>
<p>This year the overall sat score went from 1360 to 1410 school wide ED right?</p>
<p>I'll reiterate that this info came directly from Dean Blount-Lyon, so take it as gospel. I have no info on schoolwide acceptance patterns, and as for RD stats, Student Council will learn if the Dean chooses to address us again. Although I just got a job working in UG Public Affairs for Stern, so if I learn something through the grapevine (as I'll be on the 8th floor) I'll let you know.</p>
<p>aight kool, what class at stern are you?</p>