<p>I want to know atleast what the top 25 business schools in America are. anyone have a website?</p>
<p>undergrad?</p>
<p>yea undergrad thanks</p>
<p>The US News undergrad business ranking is available here:</p>
<p>I think the Business Week rankings are more accurate.</p>
<p>Posted again...</p>
<p>If you want an elite business job (consulting or finance) undergrad business school isn't an advantage. Majoring in business gets you these jobs at the top 2-3 undergrad business schools, but the best access comes from majoring in econ at the top schools. If I had to rank colleges for students wanting elite business jobs I would rank them as follows.</p>
<p>1) Wharton, MIT (business)/ Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT (econ major)</p>
<p>2) Dartmouth, Penn, Columbia, Duke, Caltech (econ major)/ NYU (business)</p>
<p>2.5) Williams, Brown, Northwestern, Cornell, Amherst, Chicago (econ)/ Michigan, Cal (business)</p>
<p>Its an absolute myth that one needs to go to business undergrad to get a top business job. For marketing, etc however it is better to go to an undergrad business school.</p>
<p>^^(last sentence) Accounting also.</p>
<p>However if you are unlucky enough not to get into HYPSetc you can still land a very good job in business and or consulting by attending undergrad business school at one of the better programs. The idea that the only good jobs are on Wall Street is just BS. You can have a very nice career and never set foot in NY unless you want to. You might even get weekends and nights off. I'm not sure what is so elite about working 100 hours a week for some psycho MD.</p>
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1) Wharton, MIT (business)/ Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT (econ major)</p>
<p>2) Dartmouth, Penn, Columbia, Duke, Caltech (econ major)/ NYU (business)</p>
<p>2.5) Williams, Brown, Northwestern, Cornell, Amherst, Chicago (econ)/ Michigan, Cal (business)
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<p>I would maybe switch Chicago and Northwestern with Duke.</p>
<p>The idea that most people go to undergrad B-school to somehow HOPEFULLY land an "elite" job on Wall Street is as hilarious as it is presumptuous. In fact, I would say the vast majority of students could actually care less and would just like to have the comfort in knowing they'll likely land a nice job making $45-$70K while working less than 50 hr/week right out of school by going to a top ranked undergrad program and doing well. </p>
<p>And for those who DO want the 'elite' job, going to a top ranked undergrad B-program and doing well clearly won't their chances on Wall Street.</p>
<p>There are not 25 good undergrad b schools IMO. If you can get into Wharton, MIT or Stern OK, otherwise just go to the best school you can get into and do econ.</p>
<p>Barrons you may be right in general but this is CC where everyone has major ambition.</p>
<p>Unless that "best school" you can includes an IVY, Duke, a couple of LAC's, Stanford and a few others you won't have much shot at any "elite" jobs either. Business grads from Top 25 bschools will have far more and better choices. With the debt markets going to hell quickly lots of those Wall Street and Hedge Fund jobs may disappear as fast as they came. A down market is very cruel. We just got an emergency economic update today that the CM business in commercial real estate is drying up fast. They employ lots of WS folks right now. No business no job.</p>
<p>^Just repeating, best undergrad biz school doesn't mean best undergrad for business.</p>
<p>However, for more vocational fields such as accounting I would suggest the B-school rankings</p>
<p>how's UCLA for undergrad biz?</p>
<p>I think you mean a pretty basis level of job though Barrons, we're not talking CEO track employment opportunities for an undergrad b program at a mediocre school. I would go to my state school before the top 25 undergrad b school program and let future employers think it was a matter of money.</p>
<p>theoretically, is it better to go to say, Stern or some other non-Wharton business school or to go to one of the better ivies and get a degree in econ/business?</p>
<p>Go to any of the Ivies and get a degree in Econ, which is > Stern</p>
<p>Slipper, I agree with your groupings, but you seem to have forgotten about Ross. Michigan as a whole probably belongs in a group 3 (not so much because the university isn't highly recruited, but rather because most talented Michigan students interested in a business career will transfer into Ross, so recruiters will focus on Ross more than the rest of the University).</p>
<p>Ross, however, belongs at least in group 2, and I would even say it belongs slightly higher, possibly in group 1.5.</p>
<p>collegekid100-Well, the better state schools have produced most of the CEOs so I don't think you would be on a non CEO track. Last year Wisconsin and Harvard were the undergrad schools for most Fortune 500 ceos. Out of the 500 fewer than 10% had an Ivy undergrad. They also produce many corporate level VPs', CFO's etc etc. Wisconsin grads until recently headed Exxon, Cisco Systems and Halliburton among others.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.news.wisc.edu/12947%5B/url%5D">http://www.news.wisc.edu/12947</a></p>
<p>Also, I think NYU Stern belongs in Group 3 because it is definitely not comparable to Econ at Columbia, Dartmouth, Duke, Columbia, etc. with regards to consulting/i-banking job prospects.</p>