<p>I wouldn't, because the Harvard name carries a helluva lot farther then the Berkeley name. Sure, Berkeley has a better program, but the quality of a program isn't the only thing you have to take into consideration.</p>
<p>Yeah, you're right in most cases. But I'm pretty sure the people who hire engineers know the difference in quality between Berkeley and Harvard engineering and I don't think they'd be won over by the prestige of harvard. Sure, harvard engineering will impress the local garbage man more than berkeley engineering, but I don't think that's the end goal for an engineer.</p>
<p>But, do you think the engineers are really gonna look that much higher on someone with a Berkeley engineering degree as opposed to a Harvard? It's not like there's this huge gap. Also, unless you want to be an engineer your whole life, I'd like to have the Harvard name on my resume.</p>
<p>You've made it clear that you like the name Harvard. That's understandable, but it doesn't mean nearly as much in the real world as high school and college kids think. Don't get me wrong, that name opens alot of doors, and the majority of the time it will get you more places than a berkeley degree. But not in engineering. I don't really keep up with engineering rankings and things like that, but I'm fairly sure that Berkeley is much, much more well thought of in engineering than harvard. So yes, someone who is looking to hire a top engineer will probably give a berkeley grad much more credit and interest than a harvard grad.</p>
<p>Thank you for repeating everything I said :)</p>
<p>Repeating everything you said? You drooled over Harvard and I said it couldn't compete with Berkeley in engineering. I'm not sure how those two things are the same, but maybe reading comprehension is overrated:)</p>
<p>I said Berkeley had a better engineering program, also stating that if all you wanted to do in life was engineering then Berkeley was the better school... You said Berkeley had a better engineering program, also stating that someone who wants to hire a top engineer will chose Berkely.</p>
<p>seconding harvard</p>
<p>Did you say these things out loud to your computer? You know you have to actually write it out and hit the post button, right? I can't actually hear you through the computer when you talk to it. That must be what you're doing because you didn't say anything like that in your posts.</p>
<p>why would you study engineering unless you want to be an engineer?
you should understand that there are a lot of people out there who are committed to engineering and don't even bother applying to harvard because harvard's engineering program just sucks. yeah, sucks.</p>
<p>"Did you say these things out loud to your computer? You know you have to actually write it out and hit the post button, right? I can't actually hear you through the computer when you talk to it. That must be what you're doing because you didn't say anything like that in your posts."</p>
<h1>21: Sure, Berkeley has a better program</h1>
<h1>23: Also, unless you want to be an engineer your whole life, I'd like to have the Harvard name on my resume. (The contrapositive being, if you want to be an engineer your whole life, I'd take Berkeley).</h1>
<p>Hope this helps with your understanding of the issue. Please carefully read all my posts before asking me to go back and requote myself, it's really a pain in the butt. Also, many people switch career paths riyam. If they didn't, why would so many people major in english? Do you really think there are that everyone who majors in english writes/teaches?? Many people study engineering, work in it for a few years, decide they dont want in, leave. There's where you'd want your Harvard over Berkeley degree...</p>
<p>"But, do you think the engineers are really gonna look that much higher on someone with a Berkeley engineering degree as opposed to a Harvard?"</p>
<p>This isn't exactly saying berkeley has a better program.</p>
<p>"It's not like there's this huge gap."</p>
<p>Yes there is. Again, doesn't sound like a ringing endorsment to me.</p>
<p>"Also, unless you want to be an engineer your whole life, I'd like to have the Harvard name on my resume."</p>
<p>This doesn't say anything about Bekeley having a better engineering program. It says that unless you want to be an engineer you should go to harvard.</p>
<p>BOB: I have a quote that says "Sure, Berkeley has the better program." What more endoresment do you want? Pretty sure all I said in my post is that I conceeded Berkeley had a better program, you asked for proof that I said that, I went back and found it for you, case closed.</p>
<p>dude, laxattack09, let it go... your string of posts didn't make sense and your line of logic was completely flawed. And for goodness sakes, don't compound the problem by using such strong language</p>
<p>Sorry, I'll try to make it more understandable for you next time...</p>
<p>As someone with a good degree of experience with Engineering in the real world, I'd like to second the notion of Harvard/Cambridge looking better to the garbageman, but Cal being acknowledged as better for actual experts/job recruiters in the field of engineering. Nobody is denying that Harvard/Cambridge are great schools, but to be honest they simply do not have the excellent research, top faculty, and focus on engineering that Cal does (especially for Computer Science). I can't speak for Cambridge, but at Harvard the computer science department had less than 100 people, and very few faculty. The argument of quality vs. quantity can't be made here, because really CS at Harvard is not very deep or wide in terms of courses and expertise. Harvard was founded as a liberal arts school, and to this day continues to be one. Berkeley, however, had ME being one of it's 3 original majors (the only one that still is offered). It's no wonder that Berkeley is always in the top 5 Engineering schools whoever is ranking, but often times Harvard focuses so little on Eng. that it's not even ranked in the top 50 (see US News rankings for proof).</p>
<p>I have a similiar dilemma, in that i have a choice of a liberal arts education, which i would love, but with a slightly inferior engineering program (ok, so Berkeley is not inferior to Cambridge...but i did say "similar" dilemma :)) or Cambridge for Mechanical Engineering.</p>
<p>It all depends where you want to work ultimately and your potential career opportunities; if you believe that studying at Cambridge would allow you to earn significantly higher, and if you want to work in the UK, then Cambridge is the choice for you. If you think Berkeley will give you better career opportunities and you want to work in the US, then go Berkeley.</p>
<p>If the choice of taking classes outside of engineering is really important to you, i would say go with Berkeley, but that's just my 2 cents :). Personally, i'm gonna go with Cambridge though lol.</p>
<p>Harvards 23 in engineering (according to US news). Like I said, if all you want to do is engineering then go to Berkeley, if you ever plan to leave the engineering field then I'd love to have Harvard my resume.</p>
<p>to the op, i think it's about where you want to be. if you want to work in the u.s., i'd say go to cal: it's easier to make connections and get internships that can be really helpful once you start looking for a job, plus the program is arguably one of the best in the world. however, i guess if you're going for prestige, choose cambridge. however, i've had a few friends go to cambridge for visits and interviews and they say that the british system is wayy different from the u.s.</p>
<p>if you want to study engineering and become an engineer, go to berkeley.</p>
<p>if you want to study engineering because investment management firms hire engineers, go to harvard.</p>
<p>if you want to study science and become a scientist, go to cambridge or caltech.</p>