Cal or UCLA (for Business)

<p>I have only 2 choices for college: Business Administration at Berkeley or Business Economics at UCLA. (I got rejected by Penn, NYU, and USC)</p>

<p>Cal is ranked higher and has more prestige, plus I'll be experiencing independence (I live in L.A.). But L.A. is much more fun to be in than Berkeley, especially if I finally get a car.</p>

<p>UCLA isnt as good in the rankings as Cal, but I would have a more comfortable environment; I could drive to school from my home in L.A., I'll be staying at home instead of at a dorm, and I already know my way around L.A. Plus, UCLA is also well-known, and I plan on working in L.A. after college anyway.</p>

<p>I really need some advice on this; I dont wanna mess up the next 4 years of my life.</p>

<p>i say go wherever you will feel most comfortable in. being in the best school in the world doesnt mean anything if you're going to be miserable attending it. have you visited Cal yet? (i personally hated the Cal campus...i just didnt feel anything from it)</p>

<p>i think cal is like 1-2 ranks ahead of ucla in business but 1-2 ranks will not matter.. u should pick the one that you feel more comfortable in</p>

<p>the ranking for business is for GRaduate school, but yes, UCLA business is slightly lower in rankings than Cal. however, Anderson does have a higher acceptance rate than Haas.</p>

<p>and also UCLA has a Graduate medical school, while Berkeley does not, unless u count University of San Francisco. Again, SF is harder to get into than UCLA's med school.</p>

<p>Keep in mind that you may not get into the Haas business school; less than half of Berkeley students are admitted to the school in their junior year.</p>

<p>I know getting into Haas is hard, but is it also difficult getting into UCLA's Business Economics program? Or is it significantly easier than Haas?</p>

<p>its supposedly 25% for Anderson while 17% for Haas. i might be wrong. similar stats for Med School</p>

<p>Is that for grad school or undergraduate? It's the undergrad that I'm interested in...</p>

<p>there is no college of business at UCLA</p>

<p>there are just majors in the L&S.</p>

<p>Yeah, Business Econ at UCLA is from the L&S. Cal's undergrad business administration degree is from Haas. </p>

<p>I just found out that Haas' undergrad acceptance rate is 53%. The website of UCLA's L&S Econ dept. doesn't give the admission statistics of their Business Econ program.</p>

<p>yes...what is the acceptance rate into the undergrad business economics major? ALso what are the standards to get it...like GPA and that type of thing. Also, if I am in the honors program, will that help me get into the business economics major (since some of the classes are harder,etc)? THanks guys :)</p>

<p>There's no real data for acceptance into biz-econ because there's no way to measure how many people switch out of the pre-major before applying due to change of mind, or finding out that they probably won't get in, etc. The thing is, there's a formula called "primary score" and there's a website on the UCLA biz-econ website that can calculate it for you. If you meet the criteria of the formula when you apply, then you get in, and if you don't, you don't. </p>

<p>So like, the people who apply already know they'll get in, and the people who know they won't get in don't apply or have already switched to something else (plain econ for example, which has lower standards). Therefore there's no accurate "acceptance rate" that can be measured. However, it does have a reputation as one of the most competitive L&S majors to get into. </p>

<p><a href="http://www.econ.ucla.edu/forms/bizecon/primaryscore-1.cfm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.econ.ucla.edu/forms/bizecon/primaryscore-1.cfm&lt;/a>
That's the website for calculating your primary score. It's probably useless to you now, but it can give an idea of what you need (it emphasizes your pre-major GPA, in which you roughly need a 3.3 or higher).</p>

<p>Many (possibly most) econ majors wanted to be bizecon but could not get into the major because of their primary score. Although bizecon majors belong to the college of letters & science, they must take classes at the Anderson school as part of their major requirements. Aside from management classes at Anderson, they must also take specific "business economics" courses that are for the most part restricted to bizecon majors. Effectively, bizecon is a hybrid degree that is part econ and part business. </p>

<p>Regarding job prospects, I have a degree in Business Economics from UCLA and have never found myself disqualified from jobs because I don’t have a Business Administration degree. In the real world it just doesn’t happen. Furthermore, coworkers have frequently asked me questions about finance, economics, and accounting on the job. So the degree will undoubtedly prepare with the tools you need to succeed. The Business Economics classes tend to be more competitive and graded harder than other majors but I'm sure the degree at Berkeley is the same way.</p>

<p>For the record, I was admitted into the BizAdmin program at Haas but decided to go to UCLA instead.</p>

<p>I hope this helps.</p>

<p>Shyboy, thanks for telling me about the job prospects aspect; thats one of my most major concern regarding which of the 2 degrees to pursue.</p>

<p>However, when it comes to applying for an MBA, would Haas' degree carry more weight or would it still not matter? I'm aiming for an MBA from Harvard/Wharton/Standford, and I just wanna know if either one of the 2 degrees will help me more than the other to get into an ivy league MBA program.</p>

<p>No, acceptance to MBA is much more dependant on work experience and accomplishments attained after undergrad.</p>

<p>Btw shyboy, exactly what field of business are you working in? Would they hire a bizecon degree for a managerial position? My cousin (who is a teacher) says that bizecon guys are usually needed when starting companies, because supposedly bizecon focuses more on theory. Would they still be very useful in running an established company?</p>

<p>In general, you need experience to be hired as a manager. Unless of course you are hired as a restaraunt manager or something like that.</p>

<p>I work in finance.</p>

<p>if u dont mind me asking... how much do u make a year? im also wondering.. u really didnt have to compete harder against students from haas to obtain the same job bcuz i've talked to ppl n they said they had to... well perhaps they were speaking more towards a very high level job... just wondering.</p>