<p>Admitted and Visitted both schools & interested in business admin program. here are my thoughts so far.</p>
<p>Berk is ranked #3 and USC #9ish (flexible depending on what standards). USC is double the cost but it is not guaranteed to get into Berk's Haas school of biz for jr/sr years. berk is notorious for its "competitive" students--is this a real issue or mostly myth? both have good study abroad programs & same recruitment/job opps after graduation (IF u are admitted to haas).</p>
<p>USC campus is gorgeous b/c of buildings, friendly atmosphere, great weather. Seems hard to get around tho outside of the school b/c of LA traffic and area (although i am unfamliar with it b/c im from norcal)...seems u need a car to get around from USC. but the campus was amazing. lots of students studying and tanning outside, enjoying the warm weather.</p>
<p>Berk is older bldgs, more trees, not as friendly appearing. Area around it is nice (berk has lots of cool food places & u can hop on bart to go san francisco to hang/shop/club). dorming is all OFF campus so it will be difficult walkin to school every morning. campus is very spaced apart too making it difficult to get from one end to the other (barely any parking for students).</p>
<p>HELP. any thoughts on cal or usc for business undergrad? id also like to know if ppl know how USC kids get around LA, how difficult is it getting into haas (stats/examples maybe?), and if berkeley is at all a fun place to be? i may be biased but it just seems like a dull campus. not enough of a good social scene.</p>
<p>You've pretty much got it all nailed down.</p>
<p>Berkeley would be better, but like you said, there are no guarantees into Haas.</p>
<p>Haas posted stats for admission:
Undergraduate</a> Program - Admissions - Haas School of Business
About 51% were accepted for Fall 2007.
Middle 80% GPA range was 3.431-3.902</p>
<p>Berkeley IMO is a very fun place to be. Like you mentioned, lots of stuff going on. Football games are right on campus. The city is much more student-oriented. Public transportation is much better too. But, perhaps being from the Bay Area, you'd like to go away. I'm from Socal and loved the change of environment. </p>
<p>The walk from the dorms is not that bad, and it gets your blood flowing to your brain so you can start thinking. (haha!)</p>
<p>USC is expensive...You'll need to weigh the additional costs with the benefits (i.e. guarantee of major you want, environment, etc.) If you want to work in Socal, USC alumni network is very strong. In all honesty though, I don't think USC is worth double Cal's cost. If I were you I'd save my money and go to Cal. But, I'm biased. </p>
<p>You won't go wrong with either...even if you don't get into Haas. Berkeley's economics department is top-notch as well.</p>
<p>Thanks. that makes a lot of sense...its pretty close to home though which is the opposite of what i anticipated for college. i loooove socal every time im there its perfect.</p>
<p>do u know how competitive exactly it is at berkeley for haas? like what they need to really do to be a stellar student, etc. i dont want to go through a whole applying to my "school" drama again...it can be nerve racking!</p>
<p>and do u know if berk's econ majors are recruited as their haas undergrads are?</p>
<p>^ I was a chemical engineering major. I think it is quite competitive for Haas. I would suggest posting your specific question in the Cal forum for more specific answers. I'd say if you are a strong student and can buckle down and study hard, you can do it easily.</p>
<p>USC is cool...too bad it's so expensive for you. If costs were similar, I'd choose it since you're from Norcal and want to go away to school.</p>