Cal Poly CS or UCSD Undeclared

<p>So i got into both Cal Poly SLO and UCSD and for a while i was leaning towards UCSD but its been getting to me lately about how computer science is impacted. Now I'm not exactly sure which to pick.</p>

<p>With Cal Poly I feel like it is a nice campus but I don't know how it will be socially and if I will be able to meet the right people to enjoy my time there. However UCSD is also said to be relatively dead but i feel like because of such a large amount of people on a large campus, there is potential to meet people.</p>

<p>For a while I also preferred the bit of prestige UCSD has over Cal Poly considering I know several people who got into Cal Poly who are just standard B's and C's students whereas my friends that got into UCSD are all 4.0+ students. However, that has recently made it feel like it will make UCSD feel more competitive and stressful and while I am perfectly fine with studying, I do not want my entire life to be spent trying to get top scores in order to get into my major.</p>

<p>And that brings me to my final point (sorry for this being so long), I don't know if its worth risking being rejected from cs major at UCSD or set back a year if I already got into cal poly for it. However, I do not know exactly what field of comp sci I want to deal with because I know I want to do something with more visual gratification than just debugging code like how in my ap comp sci class I was able to make a game of chess out of java. Because of this, I feel like UCSD offers enough of a variation of classes for me to figure out more of what I'd like to do, provided I get into my major.</p>

<p>TLDR:
Not sure which has the right social scene
Do not want to be stuck working my ass off 24/7 in attempts to get into my major and would like to have at least some spare time</p>

<p>Thank you for reading and I hope someone can help me with my troubles.</p>

<p>Given how selective Cal Poly SLO is, it is unlikely that B/C students got in. A student with a 2.5 GPA would need a 900 SAT CR+M to meet minimum CSU eligibility requirements, and Cal Poly SLO is far more selective than that.</p>

<p>It seems like you are suffering from a lack of information about both schools. UCSD and Cal Poly are both outstanding schools. My son actually turned down UCSD and UCLA for Cal Poly’s Mechanical Engineering program. What you need to to do is get more information and have that information be accurate. I suggest that you go to both school’s admitted student’s events and choose after that.</p>

<p>Cal Poly is having its Open House April 18th through the weekend: [Orientation</a> Programs - Student Life & Leadership - Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo](<a href=“http://studentlife.calpoly.edu/orientation/openhouse/index.asp]Orientation”>http://studentlife.calpoly.edu/orientation/openhouse/index.asp)</p>

<p>UCSD’s event seems to have been last week. You need to check it out. If you missed it go on a guided tour and talk to students and profs.</p>

<p>Anyway, Cal Poly is one of the most social schools I’ve ever experienced and my kid is quite introverted. He now has more friends and activities than he can handle.</p>

<p>What was decisive in our choice was the teaching methodology of each program: (A) Cal Poly hands on/learn by doing; vs. (B) UCSD emphasis more on research and theory. By the way, BOTH schools do both hands on and research. It is the emphasis that is the difference.</p>

<p>Of all the UC’s, UCSD was my son’s favorite. However, the “feel” of Cal Poly was also decisive. If it were not the incredible experience he had at the Open House, he may have chosen UCSD.</p>

<p>By the way, I see little difference between the two schools from a prestige standpoint. To drive my point home, my kid was a valedictory scholar with a perfect GPA never receiving a grade lower than an “A” in his entire HS career. He was loaded up with AP classes most of which he scored 5’s on the tests. Additionally, he scored in the top 1%-2% nationally on the ACT. Bottom line, my kid was not the only one with these types of stats and there is no shortage of really smart kids at Cal Poly. My kid wants a job immediately after graduation in industry and had had it with 12 years of “book learning” in his own words.</p>

<p>Anyway, if he had not gone to Cal Poly he would have chosen UCSD over UCLA. Both are great schools and you need to get some more info to make your decision. With regards to UCSD’s policy of going from undeclared to CS, you need to research this thoroughly. Before you choose you need to contact the school and find out exactly what the pathway to do that is. You do not want to be caught flatfooted with no access to what you really want to study. I do know that at UCSD there is more emphasis on scholarship and at Cal Poly there is more emphasis on vocation. At Cal Poly you will have your first classes in your major in the first week of your freshman year. You may need to wait for a substantial period of time to start your major at UCSD. There are general requirements and the nasty business of actually getting accepted into your newly chosen major.</p>

<p>Either way, you are going to college and both schools will serve you well. You need more information and you need to be decisive. I see Cal Poly and UCSD at the same level with different teaching methodologies and emphasis. That’s all. Oh yes, one more thing. Cal Poly is a teaching college where you will be engaged by professors in each class – there are no TA’s even in the labs. UCSD is a research university, you will have TA’s and interactions with professors will be far more limited there. That does not mean that there is a difference in the quality of the education. Nevertheless, culturally, each campus has a different focus. At Cal Poly you and your education are the main concerns of the professors. At UCSD these things are important too, but their individual research is a big priority and naturally the undergrads are not as much of a concern.</p>

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I seriously doubt that is true. Cal Poly is very selective.</p>

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I agree with you but with a slightly different take. From my personal observation, they don’t seem to choose the best students overall, they admit the best students that will most likely choose Cal Poly over other schools. I can also see that on CC but without comparison from the same school, I can’t draw meaningful conclusion.</p>

<p>Cal Poly SLO does not consider “level of applicant’s interest” in frosh admissions.</p>

<p><a href=“IR Home - Institutional Research - Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo”>http://www.ipa.calpoly.edu/sites/ir.wcms.calpoly.edu/files/publications_reports/cds/cds1213.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>However, Cal Poly SLO uses criteria different from other CSUs, and different methodology from UCs.</p>

<p>[Freshman</a> Selection Criteria - Admissions - Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo](<a href=“Cal Poly Admissions”>Cal Poly Admissions)
<a href=“http://digitalcommons.calpoly.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014&context=statsp[/url]”>http://digitalcommons.calpoly.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014&context=statsp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>What can make the admit / reject line (e.g. in a Naviance scatterplot of GPAs and test scores) more fuzzy with Cal Poly SLO (and other CSUs and UCs to some extent) is the variation in selectivity by major or division. UCs can also have fuzzy lines due to the holistic review process considering things like essays that are not easy to sum up in numbers.</p>

<p>K well thank you for the input. I think I will go back down to cal poly for the open house day because when I toured there and UCSD it was during summer. It’s unfortunate that its next weekend though because i have a band competition that weekend and I am going to be marked down a letter grade for not being able to go regardless of my reason. Oh well, one B won’t matter too much.</p>

<p>As for the B’s and C’s I’m talking about my friends who i know made it in even though they are B and C students but take AP classes as well and usually end up around a 3.5ish gpa in the end and then other friends who took all of the easy A classes to just get by in school because they are too lazy to try hard.</p>

<p>The way CSU (including Cal Poly SLO) recalculates GPA (maximum of 8 semesters’ worth of honors or AP +1 points), loading up on honors and AP courses will probably raise your CSU GPA by 0.3 or 0.4 over unweighted 10th-11th grade a-g course GPA. UC is basically the same for typical high school students applying in 12th grade, but students who apply after high school graduation as frosh include 12th grade a-g courses in CSU GPA but not UC GPA.</p>

<p>So your friends likely have much better GPAs than you describe them to have.</p>

<p>Nothing wrong with Cal Poly, it is a very good school for your chosen field. I would have to disagree that it is just as selective though. If you’re not applying for a impacted major then it is fairly easy to be accepted there.</p>

<p>^^^Agreed!! The issue is that every major is impacted!! CS in particular.</p>

<p>However not all majors may be impacted to the same level.</p>

<p>SJSU is officially impacted for all majors, but the thresholds for admission vary wildly:
[url=&lt;a href=“http://info.sjsu.edu/static/admission/impaction.html]Info.sjsu.edu[/url”&gt;http://info.sjsu.edu/static/admission/impaction.html]Info.sjsu.edu[/url</a>]</p>

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<p>For UCSD, Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering (MAE) and Bioengineering (BE) are more impacted then CS. CS just become an impacted major for fall 2013. CS is not impacted at UCB either.</p>

<p>To transfer to impacted major, you need to have a minimun of 2.5 UCSD GPA, the applicants will be ranked by UCSD GPA for available number.</p>

<p>UCSD has a Super Compuer Center which is a plus</p>

<p>Cal Poly’s selectivity is about the same as UCSB, and hair less than UC Davis. </p>

<p>So UCSD would be a bit more selective than Cal Poly. But to characterize Cal Poly’s students as B and C students is incorrect. </p>

<p>[Student</a> Profile - Admissions - Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo](<a href=“Cal Poly Admissions”>Cal Poly Admissions)</p>

<p>Avg admitted engineering major GPA: 3.98
Avg ACT: 30</p>

<p>So don’t expect Poly to be an easy school academically.</p>