<p>hi, i'm currently a UCLA freshman and thinkin about goin to business/econ major. I heard that UCLA's undergrad business isn't as good as some CUS ones, as the USnews ranked Cal State LA and Northridge higher than UCLA in 2004. </p>
<p>My questions are... which Socal CSU is good at undergrab bus? im looking at Cal State LA, but many threads here don't mention it of having a good undergrad bus. And really, how bad is UCLA's undergrab bus???? n does anyone know the approximate starting salary for graduate bus major? </p>
<p>ahh i asked way too many questions.. haha sorrie</p>
<p>I'm afraid there's a misunderstanding here... In the US News rankings you speak of, UCLA isn't actually ranked at all -- it's been unranked for undergrad business because UCLA Anderson doesn't have an official undergraduate business school. If it were on the list, however, it would definitely appear above CSULA and the other CSU schools.</p>
<p>like flopsy said, UCLA doesn't offer an undergraduate degree in business. however, if one was looking to enter into the business field, then he or she would probably be better served going to UCLA and majoring in business economics.</p>
<p>UCLA will serve you well for an MBA. there are many CSUs that have accredited bus programs nearby, and LA has been accredited longer than most of the others. you also might want to take a peek at long beach and fullerton, though they are a bit farther away. the focus of the CSUs are undergraduate first, while UC campuses cater to graduate education. that said, the Anderson school offers an awesome grad education.</p>
<p>I agree with drj - take a look at Long Beach, Fullerton and San Diego State for undergraduate business. LA or Northridge would also be good choices. You might als consider majoring in economics at UCLA, UC Irvine, or UCSD. Granted economics is not a "business" degree in the sense you mean, but it is the best way to go if you'd prefer the UC's.</p>
<p>econ is a theoretical degree while business is applied. many employers aren't very interested in econ degree holders, though some, of course, will be attracted to the prestige that a UCLA or UCB pedigree might bring.</p>
<p>take a serious look at cal state LA. recently i got to know many of the bus faculty there, and they are highly published and degreed. in fact, i would venture to say that the faculty there on par are far better in quality than the student body, which draws from less affluent areas. in addition, you have all the internship opportunities of the city. but fullerton and beach also are excellent if you don't mind the commute which can be brutal.</p>
<p>hehe would one think cal state LA's bus degree is easier to get compare to the ucla's one? cuz i want a decent job right after college grad n iono which of these two could do that for me</p>
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<p>i'm not sure if employers aren't interested in econ degree holders at all... seems to be like most companies will hire econ or bizadmin degree holders regardless of their degree, but rather on their overall quality. </p>
<p>what's probably more true is that a biz-admin degree is more applied and thus "better prepares" you for the real world, but oftentimes, a graduate with theoretical-based degree (such as econ) from a top university is seen as comparable and maybe even a better applicant than the business degree holder. it is because this person probably has more than just a degree with him/her (such as clubs, internships) and is most likely a high achiever with high potential.</p>
<p>put it this way. tons of people from harvard and stanford go into business. neither university has an undergrad business degree.</p>
<p>I don't understand your logic behind saying that econ degree holders are more likely to have extracurrics and internships than a business degree holder.</p>
<p>econ degree holders FROM A TOP UNIVERSITY are more likely to have extracurriculars and internships than someone with a business degree from an average college. </p>
<p>(forgot to add the "average college" part)</p>
<p>the whole point of this thread is whether or not business degrees are superior to econ degrees, and i'm arguing that the school that you go to (as well as the individual him/herself) makes a big difference. </p>
<p>essentially, my opinion is that UCLA bizecon (or even econ) is better than cal state LA business. most recruiters tell me UCLA bizecon degree holders is comparable to USC marshall degree holders (very good undergrad biz-admin program), and my guess is that they are attracted by the quality and potential of the applicant, so much that it doesn't matter that they majored in a more theoretical subject than business (although UCLA biz-econ does have many management/accounting courses available - the more practical ones typical of business degrees).</p>
<p>Especially with the top-paying/most competitive jobs (banking/consulting), prestige of the degree--as opposed to what the degree is--carries most of the weight. It's why American Studies majors from ivies can land wall street jobs much more easily than CSULA business majors, even though members of the former group have probably never seen a statement of cash flows before.</p>
<p>Regarding the CSULA vs. UCLA debate, assuming a recruiter was considering an applicant from each with equal quality resumes and GPA's, the recruiter would be more inclined to pick the latter simply because of the weight the UCLA name carries with it -- even if the CSULA student is just as qualified. While UCLA's bizecon program may be more difficult (and this is just an assumption), if you want to maximize job opportunities then go that route.</p>
<p>the assumption here of course is that the student from westwood has had some link to the business world via internships and projects et al. if so, then the bruin mafia is very effective around the basin and second only to the trojan mafia and will prevail. if not, then the CSU kid typically does bring more to the table.</p>