Cal vs UVA

<p>Hello,
Those are my top choices as of now and while I still have a shot for HYP or Columbia, Stanford's rejection made me more seriously consider what will might end up being my hardest choice. Any advice, insights, or anecdotes would be greatly appreciated. And I will definitely be attending both Cal's overnight stay and UVA's days on the lawn. Thanks!</p>

<p>About me: Cali resident, plan to study business</p>

<p>Cal:
in-state tuition, moneys an issue for everyone, but my parents can afford any college (over 300 k/year)
no regents, so no perks or special attention
very generally and stereotypically speaking, i dont think i'm extremely fond of the quirky cal vibe, and I've heard UVA is a lot more conservative which would fit me</p>

<p>UVA:
echols scholar, im thinking priority registration is a big plus at crowded public schools
both have top-notch business schools but Mcintyre is ranked a little higher, however much that counts for
in a remote area, which I've heard is amazingly gorgeous but I think I'd prefer to be at least near a busy city
perhaps less crazy competition than at cal?</p>

<p>OP, Haas is superior to McIntire. </p>

<p>If the cost would come out the same, choose based on fit. If Berkeley would be cheaper, go for Berkeley. If McIntire would be cheaper, go for McIntire. But don’t believe when someone will tell you that McIntire is superior to Haas.</p>

<p>Both are two year programs, but I’m sure you can get into either one if you put the effort in it.</p>

<p>I would say Berkeley, personally. I mean, I hear about Haas a lot more often than I do about McIntire. (This may have to do with that I live in California…). Also, Berkeley is right near BART and Telegraph! Very awesome :)</p>

<p>However, whatever I say, I don’t really think that could weigh too much on your decision. Both are great schools and I think the overnight programs at both schools will have a major factor in your decision.</p>

<p>It’s funny that the guys at Virginia are telling the OP the exact opposite things.</p>

<p>I’d agree with RML to choose based on costs.</p>

<p>Choose based on cost and fit(visit both campuses!).</p>

<p>Two factors: 1) admission to Haas is not guaranteed – you have to apply end of Soph year; 2) the undergraduate experience at UVa for an Echols is hard to beat. Whether it’s worth the extra cost is up to you. If I had the money, I’d send my kids to UVa in a heartbeat – if they liked it better than a UC.</p>

<p>Actually, if you’re really really sure about Business, go to UVa because at Cal there is a (50%) chance that you won’t get into Haas and then you might end up regretting your choice.</p>

<p>Depends where you want to work. I don’t know who recruits at UVA but if you want to work SF/bay area, go Haas.</p>

<p>i personally prefer Berkeley but with your situation, id go to UVA… UVA aint a bad school.</p>

<p>Thanks for the responses!</p>

<p>@sentiment
lol yeah, thats why i posted in both</p>

<p>@cnat
yes i’ve definitely heard about the regional bias, which might tip towards UVA because I’d much prefer to work on the east coast </p>

<p>@bluebayou
getting into mcintyre seems a little easier than haas though just by a little: 60% vs 46%, yes we do have the money, but then money could be better spent, my parents seriously offered me 100 k in the bank towards my first house’s down payment if i choose berkeley, that and very frequent airfare to visit my GF who got a likely from columbia, lol asian parents…echols is very ego-stroking and tempting, and i’ll decide during my DOTL visit just how much improvement it will be from being just a normal student at berkeley (which isnt all that bad)</p>

<p>One thing my parents are really pushing (besides the cost) is that Berkeley supposedly has better name recognition, just from their personal experience. Berkeley probably has UVA beat in SF and maybe rest of CA but is Berkeley significantly less known on the east coast/wall street? or how do both of them fare internationally, particularly in asia, where i might want to explore opportunities because of my descent and language?</p>

<p>in asia, berkeley has way better recognition. internationally, berkeley is thought in almost the same way if not the same way as upper tier ivies (as far as name prestige goes)</p>

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Heh, Berkeley wins then! :)</p>

<p>Lol UCB it is tempting
I get to consider Duke too now :slight_smile:
any thoughts?</p>

<p>Go visit all your choices. Sometimes you just step on campus and know you don’t like the place, or spend some time and realize there is a charm and emotional connection with the school.</p>

<p>Yeah, will do.
Just signed up for all of them today. Crazy April schedule</p>

<p>April 9: NYU
April 10-11: UVA
April 12-13: Duke
April 16-17: Berkeley</p>

<p>lol, im going to be missing so much school. But i shouldn’t let my education get in the way of my education :)</p>

<p>just avoid those D or F grades and keep the UW GPA at 3.0 or higher, otherwise the time is being invested well.</p>