<p>I have been accepted ED to Brown and was just browsing your forum and came across all this BS about Calculus. I think that is so messed up that he thinks he is too good to be bound by the ED contract. To think that one would turn down an invitation to arguably the best education possible disgusts me. It is truly a shame that this person just sees the application process as a game.</p>
<p>Anyway, IMO, you guys should send a letter or e-mail to Princeton with the posts Calculus has made. I mean I do not imagine that this could cause much of an impact because we do not know his identity, but maybe his stats and info from the ED Acceptance thread might point them in the right direction.</p>
<p>Call me morally rigid, but I just think it is so unfair to all of you to know that Calculus is going to try to "wiggle out" of his CONTRACT.</p>
<p>I hear what you're saying, but for some reason that idea doesn't feel right to me. Also, I doubt that Princeton will let him wiggle out of the contract, so I think that it's a moot point. Thirdly, based on what parts of his personality he has shown on CC, I don't really want to be a classmate of his anyway!</p>
<p>I agree that what he is doing is unfair, but I really don't think he's going to get away with that. If he posts something to the contrary, then I might consider sending an e-mail, but not now.</p>
<p>I totally understand where you are coming from, it is completely unfair to everyone that he would apply EA to Princeton (signing a contract that he would attend if accepted) then reverse his decision, because he'd rather attend Harvard solely because of the name.</p>
<p>Personally I hope he does "wiggle out" of the ED contract so that it can go to some one MORE DESERVING then him, and I hope he is not admitted to Harvard.</p>
<p>This raises an interesting problem: If I were on the admissions committee at Princeton and a student wanted to wiggle out of the contract, I probably wouldn't want him to come anyway. But allowing him to wiggle out sends the wrong message. It's really a lose-lose situation for colleges.</p>
<p>Yeah, additionally, I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't want actual Princeton AO's reading everything that goes on on CC. I know that nothing we say is really bad, but some of it is downright ridiculous and petty and I know of at least a few users who wouldn't want that exposed.</p>
<p>But I agree with everybody. He isn't coming to the Princeton board, but he isn't ashamed of it either. Go to the Harvard forum and read through the "Gay chances" thread.</p>
<p>To me, it's not the fact that he's just trying to get out of his contract.
I could understand if he has financial trouble or if he's having some problems at home that would keep him from coming to Princeton.
But it doesn't seem like he's giving a good enough reason to "wiggle out."</p>
<p>My friend told me that one of his friends had tried to break a binding contract.
And the school found out everywhere else the kid was applying to through his CSS profile, and contacted all those schools about what he tried to do.
So basically the kid got screwed over with admission chances everywhere.</p>
<p>Calculus is really going to mess things up for himself.
Seriously, if he really wants to go to Harvard and his uncle works there, then he should easily be able to transfer there after a year or two, shouldn't he?
That would be much better than breaking an ED agreement.</p>
<p>See, this is why all of you are applying or going to the #1 school in the country. You guys are very smart, have good reasoning skills, and possess the ability to view the situation without bias and objectively!</p>
<p>The binding contract isn't completely and utterly binding. Accepted students still have the option of turning down the acceptance package within a short window of time, unless admissions officers have told me wrong. If Calculus decides that he now wants to turn it down, he has that right. There is nothing "disgusting" about changing one's mind. The fact that this is "Princeton" has nothing to do with it, and none of us need get involved. This is between him and Princeton; for all we know he could be a made-up Internet personality.</p>
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^^The ED agreement I signed says the following:
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I have read the above instructions concerning Early Decision. Princeton is my first choice and I wish to be considered as an Early Decision candidate. If I am accepted under the Early Decision plan, I will matriculate at Princeton in September 2007. I understand that if accepted under Early Decision, I must withdraw all my applications (if any) to other institutions and make no new ones. I further acknowledge that it is a violation of the agreement for me to be an Early Decision or Early Action candidate at any other college or university.
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Insofar as I can read into that statement, by signing, you cannot apply to any other institutions (unless you have a very good reason such as financial inability, family crisis, etc.). Going ED at the top school in the country and turning down the offer of admission is "disgusting" in every sense of the word. As a deferred applicant, I know good and well how many well-qualified, passionate students would be more than eager to take the place of this student. </p>
<p>He's allowed to change his mind. He's not allowed to change his commitment. This Early Decision, rather than Single-choice Early Action or an agreement of that sort. I hope that the university will see to it that its applicant who failed to matriculate under the agreement will be caught.</p>
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<p>Oh really? I was under the impression that we signed our souls away when we signed that contract.</p>
<p>Also, EliHopeful, btlesgirl wasn't even referring to this whole ED thing when she said that what Calculus said was "disgusting." She was referring to his comment on another thread that he "hopes all gay applicants are auto-declinations," or something to that effect, which you could have read on the Harvard forum. </p>
<p>And like ohmisszanna said earlier, if he had an actual REASON to break the ED contract then it would be different. But he doesn't.</p>
<p>Oh, I agree, I saw that homophobic statement and I too believe it's disgusting (though I am with mike on this one, it's a troll)</p>
<p>As for the ED contract, the language in the contract when you first apply certainly implies that you must take the offer, but the truth is, if you are accepted, you still have a small window of time during which you and your family can make a final decision. I was told this by a non-Princeton admissions officer recently in a comment referring to ED contracts in general.</p>
<p>In what aspect do you believe he is a troll?
The fact that he was accepted to Princeton ED?
Or the fact that he's trying to get out of the agreement?
Or just Calculus in general?
Because he has far more normal, non-spamming posts than any other trolls I've ever seen.</p>
<p>^^yet the wording of the various ed contracts is not the same for different schools (and thus the policies would be slightly different). I'm still open to the possibility that Calculus is a troll (though with 277 posts and the same story throughout, that's not real likely), but regardless of whether Calculus exists or not, his actions do raise an interesting question.</p>
<p>I guess it makes sense that Calculus is a troll, but I really just can't believe that. I think that if he were, when he was called out on the Princeton board he would have just made a new username or dropped the whole thing, but instead he kept posting in other forums. Also, why would a troll be all panicky in the Princeton forum right before December 15th about when his letter was going to get there? Generally trolls make their stats kind of unbelievable, but he seems like he could be a real person...I'm not so sure that he's fake. Maybe his uncle doesn't work at Harvard and couldn't "get him in" there, but he could still have been accepted to Princeton ED and not want to go. Right?</p>
<p>I agree with everyone about the whole Calculus Fiasco. Yes, his arrogance is appalling, and, yes, there are plenty of other people who would sell their souls to take his place, but don't you think that this is getting old? There are at least 30 different threads that mock or at least mention Calculus in the Princeton forum. Do we really need another one? Obviously, if any of you sought to make him feel bad, you have accomplished just that because, as far as I know, he hasn't even posted anything since he got accepted.</p>
<p>I mean, really, I too find it sort of dumb that he'd get accepted and end up wanting to change the decision. But REALLY, sending Princeton some of his posts here? COME ON. Get a life people, honestly.</p>