<p>How high do you have to score to get out of the beginning calc class?! (21-111 is the course, i believe..)</p>
<p>we don't get our ap scores until july and they didnt tell us what score exempts you from the class, so how do we know which calculus class to sign up for? I want to send in my schedule asap to my advisor..</p>
<p>I missed 6 on just the first 4 sections T_T</p>
<p>Skipped the last two because I’ve only done AB calc</p>
<p>They’ll sign you up for whichever class you place into. At least, that’s how it was back when I went through it.</p>
<p>I took BC, but forgot everything so quickly. I didn’t do so well on the placement test either. </p>
<p>RacinReaver - I’m trying to plan my schedule so I can send it to my advisor and ask for any suggestions, but I don’t know which calculus I’ll be taking. So if I just leave room for one more class, do they sign you up for whichever class that works out for you?</p>
<p>I think you should just sign up for the most advanced calc class you think you’d place into. If you don’t place into it, obviously they’d put you in the other class.</p>
<p>If you get stuck in a beginner class does it still count toward credit?</p>
<p>Yeah. For most engineering disciplines you need up through differential equations either by taking them or placing out of them. If you decide not to take your placement out of a class, then you don’t get the credit for placing out, you only get the credit for taking it.</p>
<p>So there’s no remedial class? I mean, I don’t think I’ll bomb it but I guess I’m just nervous.</p>
<p>There was a lot of chatter about scores and placement results in the FB 2012 and 2013 CIT and Overall threads in early July/late June of those years.</p>
<p>The placement is really quick if the score is 44 /45 or higher…something like that- don’t quote me-- there’s an obvious score where they say …ok onward to 21 259.</p>
<p>If it’s in the gray zone 35 to 44 they waited for the Calculus AP scores and then went from there.
For the most part if you feel your calculus is iffy- there’s really no harm in starting at 21 120-- an easy A, and an opportunity to really know your stuff.</p>
<p>You will NOT in any way fall behind if you don’t place out. The curriculum is actually structured so that calculus “101” is presumed the starting point…it’s fine if is and it’s certainly fine too if it isn’t.</p>
<p>And even if the score isn’t high enough to head to 3d calc, if you insist you’re ready- it’s at your own risk, you can take it…if you do well, they grant the AP credit once you get a B or higher even if your CMU placement test was to take a lower class. It’s open to discussion with the math department…</p>
<p>@ lucky
If your AP score and CMU placement results indicate you’re not ready for the first required Calc class, then you would be taking a lower level class (that’s seems unlikely though- you’d probably get thrown into calc)…but if that is the case, those credits would count as an “Open elective”…</p>
<p>Talk to your advisor if you really really really get a terrible score. But if you had high school pre-calc, you’re ready for calculus…</p>
<p>hah, I don’t know why I’m nervous but thanks for saying it’s unlikely. I’ve always done good in math (taken IB but it’s SL and AP Calc but it was AB) and I guess I just really dislike online tests and I feel like my computer will crash last minute. Glad to know that most start out the same and I probably won’t be in remedial unless something tragic happens.</p>
<p>How does CMU handle freshman with upper level math credits (aka linear algbra, intro analysis and the like)?</p>
<p>@Nemom</p>
<p>If taken at high school, no credit without an internal placement test. Contact the specific college advisor and they will put you in touch with the math department to arrange a credit test.</p>
<p>If taken at another college, you have to submit a form for transfer credit.</p>
<p>Your s/d should contact their advisor during the registration /course selection process that will be taking place in July</p>
<p>Few high school courses beyond calculus will offer sufficient rigor to pass out of a CMU placement test.</p>
<p>i heard that there were 7 sections and each takes 1.5 hours? So the whole thing takes up to 10.5 hours? Can we take a break between the sections?</p>
<p>If you need more than 4 hours, you’re working too hard and probably should not aim to be placing out of calculus 122<br>
Most students will take 3-4 hours, a few less and a few students more…it will NOT take you 7 hours-- most certainly not!</p>
<p>Read the link from the math department about the test…it tells you what topics are in each of the sections-- then do a bit of review if rusty, don’t CHEAT-- no open book, b/c you’ll just screw yourself over being in the wrong class in the fall. You want a geniune placement – this is your education , don’t mess with it.</p>
<p>The first section is demographic info…ungraded.</p>
<p>6 subsequent sections with specific topics…if you didn’t take BC - you will be unable to do the last two sections and should leave it blank-- no need to suffer for nothing.</p>
<p>First 4 sections are straight forward aleg, differentiation, integration…15-20 minutes each -tops 30 minutes…
next two sections are the challenge-- the series part apparently causing some stress as does differential equations.</p>
<p>DO NOT LOG OFF - your test would then be considered complete and graded.</p>
<p>You can take a break within the exam…but do NOT logout.</p>
<p>Also, do not SKIP a section once opened with the intent to return-- once you exit a section, it’s done and graded.
(I remember a few years ago, My D did thought to skip ahead-- started the aleg. section, said, heck…too easy, let me skip to the hard stuff first, but then was locked out of that section and lost those points- i remember the panic… it didn’t matter …she sent them an email explaining…and obviously since she could handle the later sections that confirmed her tale…so the composite score was lower than needed to place out of calc- but they looked at the entire situation and she was placed appropriately ).</p>
<p>In conjunction with your AP score, they really look at the last two sections of the placement exam to determine if you get to go get to skip and head to 21259 and the middle sections to see if you go to 21122…and if all is a loss, you get placed in 21120…which as noted in another post is the presumption of the curriculum and right on target for an entering freshman).
This is not a race to the senior year…it’s really fine to start with calc “101”…b/c you really need to know that math solid to do all the subsequent courses in many majors.</p>
<p>Good luck…don’t fret if there’s a technical problem, they can reset your exam for you…</p>
<p>Ahh, wow, didn’t realize they changed it to an online test. Back when I did the exam it was paper-based with 35 questions and you were supposed to self time something like three hours. I remember finishing it in a little over half the time and wound up placing into Calc 3d (had taken through Calc BC, got a 5 on it).</p>
<p>i’m so confused…so the lady said i don’t have to take the test because i got a 5 on BC. but is that not really good? what’s the next level math class that i take if i’m exempt from the 2 courses that you can place out of? 3D calc? would i still get credit for the 2 classes that i don’t take?</p>
<p>gah that’s a lot of questions lol</p>
<p>@kiwilemon wait, which lady told you that if you got a 5 on Cal BC you could skip the test?</p>
<p>@garage, the lady in charge of the calc placement test, Christine Gilchrist</p>
<p>@mom2012and2014 - He’s not in yet - but CMU is high on his list. As a mom, I’m keeping hold of all the paperwork. The courses past multivar have all been at a good university and we have a transcript.</p>