Calculus Textbook (Current Students)

<p>They recently release the new version of the Gulick/Ellis Calc I/II/III textbook called Calculus with Concepts in Calculus, but that books was just released in 2011 and is really hard to find a decently priced copy (~$180 new ~$145 used). It seems like it has about 100 more pages than the previous version (simply Calculus 6th Ed, which I can easily find for $30, ironically both 6th?). I was wondering if there is a significant difference between the two to warrant getting the new one? I mean Calc doesn't really change. </p>

<p>Also, is the solutions manual worth it?</p>

<p>Thanks for posting this - had no idea there was a newer version! Purchased a sixth edition through bookholders using the ISBN but since it was only $30, assume it was the one without extra 100 pages. Argh! </p>

<p>Since the same book is used for Calc I, II, and III, I’d think that mostly only one level would be affected by that 100 page addition. I could be wrong, but, for example, it might be more relevant for Calc I if they found that students need more background/concept review or might be more relevant for Calc III if they found that students needed more advanced challenges. So, I’m thinking that’s a question best answered by your specific teacher on day 1. </p>

<p>FYI, places like bookholders give you a one week window of return from the first day of class. As for solutions manual, you can take a look at it and decide then or wait til you form a group of friends you want to study with, split the cost and pass around. Not as convenient, of course, but it’s a way to have access without the full expense.</p>

<p>Definitely don’t get the new one! Not only does it cost much more, but your teachers would’ve asked for it if you needed it. Sure, those extra 100 pages might contain information that will help you learn more, but they also mean that you will have slightly different page numbers than everyone else (which is a hassle when you’re looking for the right page out of 1100) and some exercises may be changed so you can’t do the questions assigned. Every Calc class at college park has used that book for a while now, so that’s not suddenly going to change now.</p>

<p>I also found the non-college park-specific isbn (it’s shocking how many people I know couldn’t figure that out!) and got it on amazon for $28 from the goodwill of DC. It just arrived today! I’m hoping my professor doesn’t require an online access code or else I’ll have to buy it separately :/</p>

<p>I barely used the textbook since the online assignments, discussion worksheets, and emailed exams were more than enough for practice problems and the content from the book was not a really helpful supplement to the lectures when compared to my notes. I had the old addition and would say to get that since it still had a ton of practice problems if you need them and the content is good if you happen to miss a lecture.</p>

<p>Also the online homework was on WebAssign and is not related to the book (unlike classes like chemistry and physics) so you’ll have to buy it online for $20 no matter what you buy.</p>

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<p>I’m sorry if it wasn’t clear, the new textbook is the one they say you should have. Otherwise I wouldn’t even have considered it. But if it’s not really based off the textbook, there’s no poing in spending that much money for the latest edition. Calculus is calculus. Thanks Gemini116.</p>

<p>Sorry, OP, I obviously interpreted your first post wrong. Yes, I’d still definitely go with the cheaper one.</p>

<p>Gemini116, I have a question for you! If Calc students have to pay for webassign, does that mean we don’t need to have the online access code for the textbook? I bought my book on amazon with no access code and I’m concerned that I’ll be forced to either buy the [very expensive] access code separately or buy a book from the UBC with an access code and return the other one. I don’t really see why we would need the code, but I just wanted to make sure. Thanks!</p>

<p>I don’t remember even seeing a book with an access code but I would guess the code would be for WebAssign since they are both a part of Cengage Learning. I would say don’t worry about it since the online access for WebAssign can be bought for $20 which is what all my friends and I did. All the professors also use the same system and have the same online homework assignments so you should be fine.</p>

<p>I just remembered that Denny Gulick said that either book is fine at the beginning of my first semester and his syllabus gave recommended problems to solve that were the same in each text.</p>