<p>^hahaha I don’t know how you do it, I just lose the energy to even deal with these people over time.</p>
<p>Isn’t trying to encourage diversity based on race also a form of racism? Of course, university campuses will benefit from people from different cultures, backgrounds etc. but I think all this only come into play for international students who really are the ones who bring in significant amount of diversity. If you argue that a black person grew up in a vastly different environment than a white person (and other races) in the same state or country, that is just plain stereotyping. Everyone has different set of circumstances, albeit influenced by the culture of their family and how they grew up, they are a person of their own merit. If 90% of UC campuses were filled with people from a particular race because they earned their place (assuming there is a socio-economic diversity and NOT race), people will still complain there are too many such and such people with a certain skin color and they will think that is the worst tragedy ever. There are no laws stopping you from earning that place in a university like how it used to be so stop looking at the color of other people’s skin and will yourself together.</p>
<p>hmmm. It seems that i have walked into a bloodbath. Please continue. I am amused.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that the hispanic population is growing while the other ethnicity populations are not. If aa is not instituted we will have a growing base of our population that is not educated. It is for the health of the nation that we do our best to get this group of people educated. Unfortunately many ccers do not see the big picture. As my father told me since I was little, life is not fair and it never will be. On a side note colleges admit individuals for reasons other than just test scores…Legacy, athlete, nepatism, big donor, famous parents, etc. I wonder why ccers don’t focus on these other issues that take up more spots than aa.</p>
<p>How about we just do economic based affirmative action? That way the disadvantaged are truly benefiting. Currently, the biggest barrier to success in America is income, not race, in contrast to 50 years ago.</p>
<p>omg this was one of my favorite discussion threads. thanks for bumping it. </p>
<p>i miss these debates…
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<p>Reducing immigration quotas and enforcing immigration laws will also reduce the amount of uneducated hispanics. :)</p>
<p>Wow, a fantastic debate.
Um, all I have to say about AA is that if we let other races in academically, why can’t we do that for athletics?</p>
<p>@jubilee
What do you mean by that?
Athletics is solely based on merit.</p>
<p>My dad always thought that because we let minorities who had less than stellar academics in, we should let in athletes who had less than stellar stats in, too</p>
<p>I thought that’s what colleges do? I mean I’m pretty sure most athletic scholarship recipients have GPA’s that are below the average. There is a limit on how low though, since after all schools are for learning.</p>
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<p>Do you mean a less than stellar batting average or less than stellar TD/INT ratio or something like that? Because schools already let in athletes who are subpar academically.</p>
<p>Try getting a “more white people in basketball/football” movement started and see how far that goes.</p>
<p>Football and Basketball are the only athletic programs which are producing revenue for the school. So I guess you can thank the African American community for that. All the other athletic programs lose money. Most of athletics scholarship money is given to those athletes whose sport does not make money for the school. Guess what the students filling all those slots are predominately white. Many ccers again focus on a very small number of slots that are filled by minorities. I might add many of those minority students are scoring in the 25-75 range for that school. Why don’t you target legacy, recruited athlete, big donor, famous parent etc slots that out number the minority slots. </p>
<p>An elite education for many years was only attainable for those who could afford it. As far a I am concerned, a college education should be free for all. The more educated our nation is the better.</p>
<p>Logic Warrior</p>
<p>Nice statement. You are extremely closed minded and immature. Will you be studying international relations at ucla?</p>
<p>Affirmative Action is one of the stupidest things that this country has ever done, how many ccers out there are extremely angry at minorities getting preferential treatment in the admissions processes. This policy leads to increase in racism, the only way to truly get rid of racism is to actually treat all ethnicities as equals and that means not giving preferential treatment to anyonee whether they be in the majority or the minority. I was not aware that California outlawed this but I believe that was a very smart thing to do and I would be really saddened if this was overturned.</p>
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<p>Do you feel the same way about legacy, athlete, big donor, famous parent admits also?</p>
<p>lol this thread is frknn old!!! ahah</p>