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<p>I don’t care how many generations your family has been living in California, if things keep going on the same trajectory in college education in the state, many won’t be able to go to college in CA.</p>
<p>California has to really revise on what its spends its money on. We cut education and public safety but yet they are still funding some programs that 1% of the state knows about. Raising taxes is counterproductive all it’s going to do is scare the remaining businesses to Nevada , Utah and Arizona were they have low taxes and yet they can still do business in CA with out paying the high taxes . I am actually suprised we dont get taxed for going to the bathroom</p>
<p>When I was a freshman back in 06, people with roughly same grades, ECs, and SAT scores got into certain colleges.</p>
<p>Three years later, as I prepare to apply to colleges myself, I doubt I’ll make it in, thanks to the budget crisis.</p>
<p>I really really hate this system.</p>
<p>just a little fyi: The reason we are cutting taxes to education first is because the majority of California funds go to education and welfare.</p>
<p>Now that most schools have started, how are the budget cuts affecting the students? Any personal experiences regarding programs, availability of resources? Yes, we know students are paying more, but do students feel that the education is still high quality? I’m concerned about sending my D to a CSU or UC school if programs are falling apart…</p>
<p>Meh, students are basically the easiest people to take money away from; which is basically what CA is doing. Have to get it from somewhere =(</p>
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<p>“Now that most schools have started, how are the budget cuts affecting the students? Any personal experiences regarding programs, availability of resources? Yes, we know students are paying more, but do students feel that the education is still high quality? I’m concerned about sending my D to a CSU or UC school if programs are falling apart…”</p>
<p>Well I work at a CC in the EOPS/CARE and I can say that office and I can say that services have been cut drastically. The book voucher amount has been lowered from $250 to $75 for new applicants, and from $250 for full time students to $175. We are not giving out discount stickers anymore and the meal ticket amount for CARE students has gone down from $7 per day to $5. EOPS used to offer 6 hours per week (per subject) of free tutoring, but now can offer only 2 hours. The budget cuts have put the future of the program in jeopardy for the Spring '10 semester. </p>
<p>DSS (Disabled Student Services) has had to cut tutoring services completely from their program which was pretty much the main benefit to participating in the program.</p>
<p>But at least some students are still receiving services. It’s better than nothing.</p>
<p>It might not have grade inflation in some community colleges but the standard is definitely lower. So, getting a 3.0 is not that hard to do in community colleges.</p>
<p>Riley chill. Those UC’s may not be as good as the others but they got other things that are good about them. UCSC got one of the best physics departments in the country if you actually looked at it.</p>
<p>Since Riley is fixated on rankings … the lowest UC is ranked 43 … </p>
<p>Ranking from US NEWS and WORLD REPORT -2010 - National Level Public Universities</p>
<p>University of California–Berkeley Berkeley, CA 1<br>
University of California–Los Angeles Los Angeles, CA 2<br>
University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 2<br>
University of Michigan–Ann Arbor Ann Arbor, MI 4<br>
University of North Carolina–Chapel Hill Chapel Hill, NC 5<br>
College of William and Mary Williamsburg, VA 6<br>
Georgia Institute of Technology Atlanta, GA 7<br>
University of California–San Diego La Jolla, CA 7<br>
University of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign Champaign, IL 9<br>
University of Wisconsin–Madison Madison, WI 9<br>
University of California–Davis Davis, CA 11<br>
University of California–Santa Barbara Santa Barbara, CA 11<br>
University of Washington Seattle, WA 11<br>
University of California–Irvine Irvine, CA 14<br>
Pennsylvania State University–University Park University Park, PA 15<br>
University of Florida Gainesville, FL 15<br>
University of Texas–Austin Austin, TX 15<br>
Ohio State University–Columbus Columbus, OH 18<br>
University of Maryland–College Park College Park, MD 18<br>
University of Pittsburgh Pittsburgh, PA 20<br>
University of Georgia Athens, GA 21<br>
Clemson University Clemson, SC 22<br>
Purdue University–West Lafayette West Lafayette, IN 22<br>
Texas A&M University–College Station College Station, TX 22<br>
University of Minnesota–Twin Cities Minneapolis, MN 22<br>
Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey–New Brunswick Piscataway, NJ 26<br>
University of Connecticut Storrs, CT 26<br>
University of Delaware Newark, DE 28<br>
Indiana University–Bloomington Bloomington, IN 29<br>
Michigan State University East Lansing, MI 29<br>
University of California–Santa Cruz Santa Cruz, CA 29<br>
University of Iowa Iowa City, IA 29<br>
Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA 29<br>
Colorado School of Mines Golden, CO 34<br>
Miami University–Oxford Oxford, OH 34<br>
University of Colorado–Boulder Boulder, CO 34<br>
SUNY–Binghamton Binghamton, NY 37<br>
SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry Syracuse, NY 37<br>
Auburn University Auburn University, AL 39<br>
Iowa State University Ames, IA 39<br>
North Carolina State University–Raleigh Raleigh, NC 39<br>
University of Vermont Burlington, VT 39<br>
SUNY–Stony Brook Stony Brook, NY 43<br>
University of Alabama Tuscaloosa, AL 43<br>
University of California–Riverside Riverside, CA 43<br>
University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 43<br>
University of Nebraska–Lincoln Lincoln, NE 43<br>
Florida State University Tallahassee, FL 48<br>
University of Arizona Tucson, AZ 48<br>
University of Missouri Columbia, MO 48<br>
University of Oklahoma Norman, OK 48<br>
University of Massachusetts–Amherst Amherst, MA 52<br>
University of Tennessee Knoxville, TN 52<br>
Washington State University Pullman, WA 52<br>
University of New Hampshire Durham, NH 55<br>
University of South Carolina–Columbia Columbia, SC 55<br>
New Jersey Institute of Technology Newark, NJ 57<br>
Ohio University Athens, OH 57<br>
University of Oregon Eugene, OR 57<br>
Arizona State University Tempe, AZ 60<br>
Michigan Technological University Houghton, MI 60<br>
University at Buffalo–SUNY Buffalo, NY 60<br>
University of Utah Salt Lake City, UT 63<br>
Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 64<br>
Louisiana State University–Baton Rouge Baton Rouge, LA 64<br>
Missouri University of Science & Technology Rolla, MO 64<br>
University of Arkansas Fayetteville, AR 64<br>
University of Kentucky Lexington, KY 64</p>
<p>These cuts are pretty bad. Classes at community college fill up quickly, and some classes aren’t even offered some quarters due to budget cuts, which make people take longer to graduate.</p>
<p>With budget cuts, impacted majors & classes, do colleges accept less students? The situation of the availability of classes in Ca schools makes going out of state a tempting option…wondering if attending an Arizona school to get ge’s out if the way and then transferring to a Ca school is a possible option. Opinions?</p>
<p>Why not stay all 4 at an AZ school? Have you checked out the WSE program? The top schools are not on the list (UofO, boulder, U0fA). I wish I had insisted that my D apply to NAz and WWashU. Both would be very easy ins and easy $$$ for CA residents with decent stats. D is “in” at UofA with basically the same bottom-line as a UC–providing she accepted to a UC. Trouble is UofAs dorms are filling-up as I type this and UC won’t release decisions until…IDK…whatever date in the future. D is also in at some “nice” east coast LACs, with great merit aid. Big decisions for a high school senior and her uber $$$ conscience mom.</p>
<p>I think you are referring to the WUE program. It is a great option for those in CA who might be interested in attending a 4-year public university in the western part of the US. CA residents would pay 1.5 times the in-state tuition (vs. the OOS tuition which is usually at least double the in-state). This is something we are considering, too.</p>
<p>Yes. WUE. My bad. Check the all details carefully. Some schools offer the program only in certain majors. Some set different deadlines for WUE apps. Some schools offer a “discount”. (WWU cuts $8000 off the OOS rate.) With highly competitive admissions for CA state schools, WUE provide more options for CA applicants.
There are so many schools on the list. It’s a little overwhelming.</p>
<p>And don’t only go by what the WUE website states as allowable majors. Check out the actual university’s websites as they have the most current/correct info.</p>
<p>We are very seriously considering NAU as an option because of the WUE option. We have several friends whose kids have gone thru NAU in 4 years and have loved it. I don’t foresee the Ca budget mess getting any better which means more impacted majors/classes. Add to that the Ca dream act and even more students…Ca schools seem to be less appealing as time goes on…</p>
<p>Good article.
Students get robbed.</p>
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<p>UCs and CSUs regulated admission intake (some CSUs got a lot more selective over the past few years). Community colleges are open admission, so they had the most problems with impacted courses.</p>
<p>The top choice CSU play games with admissions offers to increase their selectivity rankings. It’s a very tricky numbers game involving GPA, SAT, ZIP CODE, and predicotr factors (the likeyhood of attendance) CSUs can longer be considered safety schools for high preforming CA students.</p>