California residency for in state tuition

I hope the information you’re giving me is credible. I got on the phone with the residency department at csulb and I explained my whole situation including the fact that I will be taking online classes from a school in Florida and they said it was ok.

“If you establish residency before you enter CSULB, dependence on an out of state parent is not an issue. If you are a nonresident when you enter CSULB and want to change your status to resident for a future term, financial dependence on an out of state parent will disqualify you from California resident status.”
Thats what they said

“To be eligible for California resident status, you must arrive in California to begin you permanent stay on or before September 19, 2015. Your residential ties to California must be made on or before September 19, 2015. Financial independence from out of state parents is not an issue for incoming applicants. Students admitted as nonresidents who wish to change their status for some future term must prove financial independence from out of state parents in the current year (the year they are requesting a change in status) and in the prior 3 years, a total of four years.”

But you have to be a resident of FL to pay resident fees for those online classes.

You’ll be in CA trying to establish CA residency. So you should be paying FL nonresident fees to finish your AA?

And you said you will be receiving $ from your parent so you will be financially dependent and therefore disqualified from resident status.

BTW I’m a CA resident and parent, and familiar with the UC and CSU residency rules!

My parents address in on my Fl fafsa and school records and I asked my school advisor if I could taking online classes from Valencia College while establishing residency in California and he said it was no problem. I have money of my own but my dad wants to help me out with rent a bit so I guess that would still make me dependent but according to the CSULB residency department that would not be an issue.

Of course it’s no problem to Valencia because you should be paying nonresident fees to finish your AA. Do you understand that it’s dishonest to keep your FL address to finish your AA, while at the same time, you plan to be living in CA?

Perhaps you need to revisit residency once you get accepted to a CA college with your OOS units.

Im doing what works and what the people at my school and the schools in Cal tell me is possible.

I thought you said you should be working, not taking courses at a FL community college.

You may succeed or you may get caught. I would bet on you getting caught. Your FL CC records will have dates and will tie you to a FL address for those dates. This violates the spirit and the letter of CA residency:

Unless you move to CA and work while not taking any college courses for a year, you are unlikely to be considered a CA resident. From your posts on this thread, it sounded like you would move to CA and work for over a year prior to going to school. If you move to CA and are going to school, that is a completely different story.

sorry I said it in a different pos that I will move to Cal and start working immediately but I did not want to take a year off so I found out that I can take online classes while establishing residency. Everyone I’ve talked to meaning my school in FL and CSULB said it was alright…

Also, don’t be too quick to assume you can transfer right into CSULB. It’s a very popular school, with almost all (or perhaps all?) majors impacted.

I mean it can’t be much harder than the schools here in FL @arc918

Your predicted 3.2 GPA may not be good enough for a competitive and impacted campus like LB. You should include other CSU campuses in your plan. Good luck to you!

Ill still have a year to bring my GPA up also this is what the CSULB Residence Specialist just sent me

I just want to be double certain before I move to Cal.

  1. Am I allowed to take online classes from my original home state (Valencia college in Orlando), While I am living in California and establishing residency? Reason being is I don’t want to take a year off from school and need to finish my AA before I transfer.

You can take online courses from a Florida College while you are in California. You will be asked to verify that the courses were on-line only.

  1. I can move to California and be accepted for in state tuition after 366 days of establishing residency while still receiving money from my parents? I will be working and acquiring DL, Lease agreement etc.

Financial dependence on out of state parents is not an issue for incoming applicants. A student applying for admission does not need to prove financial independence from parents who are not California residents. An incoming student with the legal capacity to establish residency who meets the physical presence and residential intent requirements will be classified as California resident. He or she does not have to verify financial independence from out of state parents. To be legally capable of establishing residency, a person must be an adult and must be either a U.S. citizen or must have an immigration status allowing the establishment of residency.

Look, employees have no accountability for these answers. You may get a different answer the next time you ask- they may not have fully understood the question. You may slide through on question 1, or you may not. You may not establish residency if the whole time you moved to CA was mainly for the purpose of education. You may not get in-state rates for a CC in florida (as a FL resident) without appearing to have residency ties to FL.

Can someone in CA sign up to take on-line courses from a university in FL? Of course! Will it beg the question of residency? Of course! If you have been in CA for many years and paid OOS rates to take those online courses, of course there there will be no issue when they look into it. If you show 2-3 years of courses from a FL school, all from an in-state FL address, the last of which is when you claim to have been a resident of CA, will there be a problem? You seem to know the answer to that, so go ahead and act on it. Good luck! I hope you are right (who knows, maybe you are?). Some people are less risk-averse than others. You know that it goes against the spirit of the law, as well as the letter of the law, but maybe the administrative clerks will overlook it. That kind of thing happens all the time.

Transferring the credits and gaining acceptance to CSULB, Cal Poly SLO, SDSU, and a few others is known to be challenging for ANYONE. Other CSUs are less impacted.

With the budget issues, funding of UCs and CSUs have been front-page news monthly (if not weekly) over the past couple of years. Do a search of any major CA newspaper (e.g. LA Times)- it LITERALLY has been front-page news. It is a very hot issue right now. In addition, they lowered the percentage of HS graduates they are accepting this year. The Beach is an impacted school. They are not looking for reasons to accept people at low tuition rates; quite the opposite- they are scouring for every available cent.

“employees have no accountability for these answers” She is the residency specialist for the school how is she going to be incorrect? thats her job to know these things. I don’t know how this will play out because it is difficult but not impossible, theres always ways to get around things. As far as transfering my grades, Ill make sure to match the same classes I have already completed most of what they ask for. While in Cal Ill just visit the universities in person to see what my best options are for now CSULB sounds good.

When we visited LB they told us they received, 80K applications, and that was in 2013.

They are very selective and are difficult to gain entry; they are also an impacted school, and their priority goes to California taxpayers because there is a lot of pressure on the CSU’s to serve the constituents first.

You plan on taking classes with a linked Florida address to get around paying California tuition. What a sneak! We pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in California taxes for our students, not for gamers who try to game the system.

Your concept of getting “around things” sounds criminal. You will get caught.
At SDSU, when we spoke to staff, we got different answers on different days from the same people, multiple times about a question we had.

The correct information is listed on the CSU website. Everything goes through that first; not through some conversation with a state employee because- California triple checks everything having to do with keeping the money. They will eventually catch up with you and will hold your registration and then they get nasty: they hold your diploma.

It’s tricky…I was a CA resident prior (born and raised), so had no issue establishing when I started at a UC. However, my parents ended up moving out of state, so I lost their home address in CA. By that point though, I had had a CA DL for several years, and was independently living in the state long enough that it wasn’t an issue.

lol criminal thats funny I was hoping that would be possible i had no criminal intent. You are over sensitive and I was simply looking for ways to make this work for me best obviously if its illegal or i can’t then i won’t. They said i couldn’t do that so ill just take the remaining classes and pay out of state.

and I would also be a taxpayer

Your idea of getting into CSULB should be reconsidered. The acceptance rates you read about are misleading. CSULB is part of the Long Beach College Promise, which is a program that guarantees all grads from Long Beach high schools will be accepted with minimal requirements and guarantees transfers from Long Beach City College. This means that the acceptance rate for those who do not graduate from a LB high school is low. It is also one of the most popular CSUs do to location so they can be choosy in who they accept. It actually is a difficult college to gain admission to.