<p>Problems are compounding in the California three state university systems due to the financial crisis, so it's time to make sure you apply early (by November 30th) to have a chance at the colleges you are interested in:</p>
<p>CSU</a> plan would turn away many B students</p>
<p>Higher</a> education leaders visit lawmakers to protest proposed budget cuts|CSU | Public Affairs |</p>
<p>These articles are all about the CSU system... What about the UC's? The deadline is November 30th anyway, isn't it?</p>
<p>who knows what will happen? It's all speculation now. The CSU's are grandstanding to show how bad things will be unless the State comes thru for them. Maybe the State will, maybe it won't; and in any case the CSU's have other choices than turning away students.</p>
<p>My expectation is that tuition and fees will rise at UC and CSU schools, and they will clamp down some on enrollment. But its just speculation. They get the 1/2 cent sales tax increase passed, maybe nothing happens.</p>
<p>This is a direct quote from a recent news article regarding the UC budget.</p>
<pre><code>"Gov. Schwarzenegger proposed a midyear budget cut of 65.5 million for the UC system ON TOP OF the 48 million reduction already in the budget."
The article suggests this MAY result in larger classes, more TAs teaching classes, fewer funded research projects, postponing new equipment purchases and higher fees. Keep in mind this is speculation.
The private universities are cutting back on new buildings, added faculty and financial aid packages depending upon the college/university.
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<p>The current California budget "shortfall" for the current fiscal year is 7 billion dollars, an additional $3 billion cut from the original estimated cuts needed of $4 billion to balance this year's totals--which is why so much is being cut from all areas of the budget.</p>
<p>Many people in other states (and countries) don't realize that the size of the California economy would make it the 7th largest world economy if it were its own separate country.</p>
<p>Accordingly, the budget for state services, including education, was approximately $145 billion in 2008 and is being cut to $138 billion in 2009 (original Governor's proposed budget was $141 billion, but things have deteriorated in the past two months) due to the poor financial situation statewide (which is, of course, the same problem everyone is facing nationally and internationally as well).</p>
<p>And hopeslikeflowers--if you check the second link in my original message, you'll see it also covers the UC system and community college system as well as the Cal State Universities.</p>
<p>Private unis in CA are also putting the clamps on spending. USC recently announced a staff (not faculty) hiring freeze through June '09 and a similar halt to new/expanded construction spending. No discussions yet touching on enrollment.</p>
<p>The budget crunch will hit K-12 as well. I have a friend who's on the local school board and she shudders about how to make mid-year cuts when all the classified teachers have annual contracts that go through the end of the school year.</p>
<p>The silver lining on that cloud is that they can get rid of dead wood faculty and do nothing staffers...the bloated bureaucracy. All those PhD's who have been feeding at the trough for decades and not producing anything.</p>
<p>Are tuition increases planned?</p>
<p>^At SSU, they're not increasing fees, but are imposing a one-semester 16-unit cap on all classes and are not offering classes that don't have at least 20 sign-ups during first registration. Trying to cut down on unnecessary classes.</p>
<p>Tuition and fees already increased by 7.4% this year at the UCs. Whether there will be a mid-year increase as a result of the most recently changes is is unlikely, but possible:</p>
<p>In the meantime, all the UCs (and the CSUs) are being asked to cut costs:</p>
<p>10.23.2008</a> - Chancellor asks campus to prepare for worsening budget picture</p>
<p>And notice that this call for cuts was before the additional $65.5 million in cuts projected for the UC campuses.</p>
<p>The legislature will take up the Governor's request for more cuts on December 1st:</p>
<p>UC</a> Budget Central</p>
<p>What concerns me is the plan on the table that gives priority to students in a CSU's local service area.</p>
<p>More information here: <a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/education/ci_10959311?nclick_check=1%5B/url%5D">http://www.mercurynews.com/education/ci_10959311?nclick_check=1</a></p>
<p>vballmom-this has always been the case.</p>
<p>Almost everyone at my highschool who had a GPA above 2.0 got into CSULB because we were so geographically close (literally down the street).</p>
<p>Perhaps the legislature should carry out a college "wealth redistribution" program. News reports show huge endowments held by Stanford and USC --- in the billions! If these mega-rich schools were to share their wealth with other California schools that are now in distress, it would be easy to fill the budget cuts and fix the opportunity & financial hardships facing tens of thousands of good students. The rich donors who gave these endowments have enjoyed their tax breaks, at the expense of others. Will Stanford and USC help their fellow hurting students at other schools? It may take some student pressure on the politicians.</p>
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Perhaps the legislature should carry out a college "wealth redistribution" program. News reports show huge endowments held by Stanford and USC --- in the billions! If these mega-rich schools were to share their wealth with other California schools that are now in distress, it would be easy to fill the budget cuts and fix the opportunity & financial hardships facing tens of thousands of good students. The rich donors who gave these endowments have enjoyed their tax breaks, at the expense of others. Will Stanford and USC help their fellow hurting students at other schools? It may take some student pressure on the politicians.
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I assume you are being sarcastic...</p>
<p>But if you weren't, I'd have to respond, "Why don't we not go to college at all? We could just redistribute the wealth to those who haven't as well.</p>
<p>Can anyone explain the reasoning behind these budget cuts? Because they way I see it there are only 4 public university's in California for my major +4 private. I meet all the requirements plus some to transfer to one of those schools. But since these budget cuts its not looking good for me or anyone else. Basically I am better off donating my application fee to Harvard because I have a better chance of getting in there. So I have to start looking out of state. So what I do not understand is California is basically encourage students to look out of state losing residents to pay taxes and making my parents spend their hard earned money in another state hurting the state economy even more. Is it just me but where is the logic in that?</p>
<p>Vballplayer, you should have no trouble getting in if you get your applications in NOW. Or if you don't get in save your money go to community college for a year or two and get a guaranteed transfer (assuming it's not UCB or UCLA you want to go to). Is the major you want impacted? Then that may be more tricky also and you should definitely apply now.</p>
<p>I remember the same thing was happening when I got out of school. I still got in because I applied early.</p>
<p>The reason there are budget cuts is because California can't use their money right. We are billions of dollars in the hole.</p>
<p>vballmom...CSUs have always given priority to local students...I know my high school wanted EVERYONE to go to Sac State. I said the hell with that...</p>
<p>For individual CSU deadlines check this site: CSUMentor</a> - Apply Online - Status Report
Most deadlines are Nov. 30.<br>
On another note, CSUs have some of the lowest "tuition" of any public 4 year universities in the country. For a comparison with other western states go to <a href="http://wiche.edu/policy/Tuition_and_Fees/Tuition_and_Fees2008-09.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://wiche.edu/policy/Tuition_and_Fees/Tuition_and_Fees2008-09.pdf</a>
When it comes to California Community Colleges they charge the lowest fees by far (New Mexico is second).</p>
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1)High CA (income) taxes chase wealthy people away to more forgiving states. The Laffer Curve shows that an increase in taxation rate doesn't necessarily lead to an increase in tax revenue. </p>
<p>2)CA imports and protects illegal aliens who contribute little to no tax revenue and suck up a lot of resources: ER as primary care, ESL classes with crappy results, high rates of teen pregnancy and illegitimacy.</p>
<p>3)CA played a part contributing to some of the largest and most devastating parts of the sub-prime mess in places like Stockton and San Bernadino in a time when ads were being run in Spanish by mortgage lenders specifically appealing to people without papers. </p>
<p>4)Hostility in CA to extraction industries and logging ----->lower tax revenues</p>
<p>5)CA's opposition to building things like nuclear power plants or things like under-performing wind farms that lead the CA to being a net importer of energy. </p>
<p>6)CA's high minimum wage laws that make the state have incredibly high inflation, resulting in people being taxed at the federal level at a high bracket relative to their class. </p>
<p>7)High crime levels which leads CA to export criminals to other states' facilities.----->CA govt expenditure to other states instead of CA.</p>
<p>8)Illegal immigration problem that leads to CA's highly abused welfare programs.</p>
<p>9)CA gun laws discourages law abiding citizens from purchasing guns and gun related paraphernalia. One form of state revenues are from fees and registration of guns. Few gun shops means fewer businesses/business, means fewer tax revenues.</p>
<p>I'm sure there are plenty of other reasons. </p>
<p>Those Californians who voted for Ahnold in the 2003 recall election can go **** themselves 'cause Ahnold is an idiot and doesn't know how to legislate.</p>
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<p>When you say early, do you mean you applied within the first few days that the application was open, or do you mean just within the filing period?</p>
<p>I hear people say early, but is there a drastic difference between submitting on Day 2 compared to Day 22?</p>