Callbacks Purchase and Rutgers

<p>Since on campus callbacks are right around the corner, does anyone no how they let you no or did they tell you at your audition?</p>

<p>My daughter got a same-day callback at her audition in NY. They talked to the students about the program and did a group movement exercise. There was mention of an on-campus callback, but it’s not clear if everyone who was called back that day would be invited. Rutgers still has another set of on-campus auditions, so perhaps they will notify after that?</p>

<p>I didn’t get called back in NY. Should i expect to hear from them about on campus callbacks? The guy running the desk said the same day callback didn’t necessarily determine campus callbacks, that it was still possible to get one if you did not get a same day callback. Then again, Suny sorta says the same thing about admission and not having a callbacks, but that definitely not true. I don’t really know what to think.</p>

<p>My daughter still hasn’t done her audition at Rutgers–it’s this Saturday. I’m guessing there will be no official callback to the March campus callback until all the actual auditions are done. </p>

<p>Nervewracking!</p>

<p>At Purchase a couple of weeks ago they auditioned about 40 or so (that’s just my rough guesstimate…) and, after that was done, posted a call back list. Everyone had to wait around for that posting before those not called back could leave… Those called back then went before the auditors again there (by that time it was about 3:00 or so…the initial auditions had begun at about noon). They say calls backs are not definitive - i.e. one could still be accepted without being called back - but my sense is that chances for acceptance are much, much higher for those called back…</p>

<p>northdad, my understanding is that callbacks are 99.9% definitive. If you don’t get a callback for Purchase (or any other program that does callbacks) it’s not 100% that you absolutely don’t get in, but I’d say it’s pretty darned sure.</p>

<p>I agree hovering. But, at Purchase, they make a point of saying that acceptance is possible without being called back…</p>

<p>HoveringMom - maybe I’ll see you at Mason Gross on Saturday, but I’ll probably make myself scarce (at son’s insistence). Best of luck to your daughter.</p>

<p>northdad, hmm, now that you say it, I remember they did that too even at my son’s audition 5 years ago. But is it really true? Has there ever been a case of a kid who wasn’t called back but was accepted? I have to wonder if this is not just a way for Purchase to get rid of any parents or student who might get argumentative! </p>

<p>stagemum, best of luck to your son! I probably should make myself scarce too as I think I get more nervous than she does…</p>

<p>My daughter auditioned at the NY Unifieds for Rutgers on Sunday, 2/5/2012. Only one boy was called back and no one was called back the day before. I asked the man sitting at the table if my daughter didn’t get a callback was she not being considered for the program anymore. He said oh no, no, no. That just means they saw whatever they needed to see at her audition and didn’t need to see her again that day. She still hasn’t heard anything about the callback weekend- but it appears no one else has either.</p>

<p>Just got back from D’s audition at Rutgers. They are still going on today and tomorrow, so they will certainly not let anyone know about the weekend callback quite yet. </p>

<p>I have never heard this before: They told us several times that it didn’t matter if you got a callback or not–you were being considered regardless. Two of the Freshmen student volunteers (very sweet) said they didn’t have a single callback, but were accepted. Go figure.</p>

<p>The weekend thing is new, I believe (?). They said that if you didn’t get that, that also didn’t mean you weren’t accepted, although I’m not sure whether I heard correctly. They said they would let students know by email.</p>

<p>Thanks hovering! What I don’t get are the programs who have already accepted students into their program before Unifieds even happened. Penn State comes to mind. My daughter auditioned for their MT program (the only MT- the rest were all for BFA Acting), She did get a callback but we haven’t heard anything since. I saw on the MTCA facebook page that a girl was accepted on February 6 to Penn State’s MT program but how can they accept people without even seeing all the other auditioners- especially since the acceptance is so low? One of my daughter’s friends auditioned for Penn State at Chicago Unifieds- didn’t get a callback- and got a rejection program for their program. I guess it’s good we haven’t heard anything yet.</p>

<p>hoveringmom- It’s odd to me that those girls said they never had a single callback and they got it, because I heard directly from the admissions counselor at the auditions at unifieds that this was the first time they ever did callbacks! She told me that they weren’t going to say whether that meant you were out of the running if you didn’t get call backs, since this was their first time doing them, and they couldn’t say for sure what the outcome would be, but she made it seem like any chances of getting in without and immediate callback was very slim. It looks like they’ve changed their opinions a little on what a callback means as they’ve gone along! If it were me, though, I would not keep my hopes up on a school that didn’t call me back, even with the disclaimer. In my experience that disclaimer of “no callback doesn’t mean you are out of the running” has not EVER proved true. But obviously I am not Rutgers, they know what they are doing a lot more than I know what they are doing! I wish schools would tell us right away whether we had a chance! Instead of leaving us to our imaginations for a month or two, waiting for a letter.</p>

<p>cbraves–I agree, normally, in every other circumstance, no callbacks would mean they are most likely not considering you. But today they were VERY vocal about the callbacks not meaning anything. The two Freshmen were emphatic and obviously had been told to say this because they repeated it all morning to nearly every person. Furthermore, the woman entering your name also said it, on several occasions.</p>

<p>I think the source of confusion are the new, two tiers of callbacks. The callback weekend is new, but the immediate callback - to my understanding - is not (someone please correct me if I’m wrong). My reading of this whole thing, and I certainly could be wrong, is that the immediate callback is the one they’re talking about when they say it is not an indication. My reading of it is that after the audition, students are divided into roughly three categories: Yes to the March weekend, No to the March weekend, and Maybe to the March weekend. The “maybe” ones are called back, possibly the Yes ones if they feel they have time.</p>

<p>That’s just my reading. Also, as you all probably know, they have a new director and are changing the program slightly. It is now 3.5 years long, among other changes. They had handouts of a fairly long intro by the new director (some 4 pages long). Perhaps the new procedure in auditions reflects the new director. </p>

<p>And I too find it odd that some programs admit early. It’s common in colleges of course - Early Admission, rolling admission etc - but it seems that in programs with extremely small admission classes, some as small as 15 or 20 total, it would be not to their benefit to admit so early. But what do I know?</p>

<p>When my daughter auditioned at NY Unifieds, the man at the table said he had to get the auditors to the airport by 1:30 so they could get to Chicago. There was one girl from California who got a walk-in because she didn’t know Rutgers would be there and it saved an extra trip to NJ for this weekend (her original audition date. It was nice that they were able to do this for her). The man at the table did manage to fit her in- but again- they only called back one guy so they had some room and she was the only walk-in. Seemed like they were in a big hurry and my daughter’s audition was about 5 minutes- she did her two monologues and they talked to her for a bit. She did not have to sing but maybe they saw all the MT roles on her resume and the fact that she majors in MT at a performing arts school. My daughter also said they had great poker faces and that one of them had these intense blue eyes. She said they were nice- just didn’t give any indications.</p>

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<p>So, the theory is that if you are invited for the callback weekend, it’s not that you have made the cut, only that they are unsure about you and you’re in the maybe pile? The yesses and nos are not called back?</p>

<p>Or did you mean that those called back at the unifieds were “maybes.” Strange-- my daughter was called back during the unifieds and her sense (as well as the other kids with her) was that there was no evaluation during the callback. They talked to them about the program and did movement exercise during which the evaluators were also moving, not taking notes.</p>

<p>This seems like a system designed to drive everyone involved maximally crazy.</p>

<p>“This seems like a system designed to drive everyone involved maximally crazy.”</p>

<p>Agreed 100%.</p>

<p>What I meant was that at the Rutgers one this weekend - can’t speak for the Unifieds - the immediate callbacks <em>might</em> be for the maybes. It does sound like they have been evolving as the audition season has been going on, too, so what was true at Unifieds might no longer be true? I really have no idea, to be honest. It was just a theory – I’m trying to make some sense of a very odd process: “We have immediate callbacks, but they don’t matter, and we won’t really tell you why we have them or what our purpose is; and we have this long March callback, but we’re not really saying whether that means you have to be at the March callback to be considered or not.” </p>

<p>The only thing I can tell you with certainty is that they went out of the way to say that it’s irrelevant if you are called back. I have never been to an audition in which they have said that with such force; Purchase says this too, but much more casually. The Rutgers folks repeated it over and over and, as I said, the two Freshmen girls repeatedly said they had no callbacks at all, and were just accepted. They implied that others did have callbacks. But can I ask anyone who knows–did they even have callbacks at all last year? (I mean instant callbacks)</p>

<p>Well, I suppose we’ll all find out soon enough…</p>

<p>I presumed that no call-back meant that they weren’t interested, but my son was given the same assurances as HoveringMom’s daughter. He wasn’t asked to sing, either, which I took - again - as a lack of interest, but it might simply have been because they were running late. My son is not a singer, but had a song prepared.</p>

<p>The only auditioned BFA program with rolling admissions that I’m familiar with is UArts, and I was surprised that my son was notified as quickly as he was, considering he auditioned in Philly the week before the NYC Unifieds - I would have thought that they’d have waited to get a sense of their talent pool. I think Cornish, and a few others, also are on rolling admissions.</p>

<p>stagemom–were you in the theatre? I was looking for you, wondering who you were! :slight_smile:
NO ONE was asked to sing as far as I could tell, so don’t take that as a reflection on your son.</p>