Calling all aspiring authors! :)

<p>I thought it would be fun to see what all us aspiring authors are doing in regards to college. :) As we all know, we don't need a college degree to be fiction writers. So what are you guys doing? </p>

<p>Since I've taken a quarter off UCLA for medical reasons (but am almost better, finally!), I've decided to work on several creative projects during this time, the summer, and next year. I'm also going to be taking community college classes this summer and probably next year as well; I'm applying to transfer to other schools for fall 2012. But while I wait for admissions decisions, I'm going to see if I can jumpstart my career as an author this year and if I'll even have to go to college at all. I'm on page 167 of my novel now...it's coming along wonderfully now that I have this time to really dedicate myself to it! :D </p>

<p>How about you guys? ^_^</p>

<p>First of all: congratulations on the success you’re having with your novel! </p>

<p>I’m actually still in high school, so I’ve got a lot to think about. For the past year, I was set on going to school for a Creative Writing major, but now I’m not too sure that’d be worth it (as in: I was looking at Columbia, Princeton, LAC’s, for something that may not even pan out). So that leaves me with a lot of questions, mainly wondering about what else I could do in this crazy world of ours. I really love politics, and I have a lot of interest in international affairs (I’d love to travel, you have no idea) - my mom has repeatedly told me I’d be an excellent diplomat, working for the UN or something of the same strain. </p>

<p>But I’ve got a few years left, so I’m not going to get myself all wound up about it quite yet - particularly because, if I get my way, I’ll be taking a gap year for traveling. Fingers crossed. =P</p>

<p>Why thank you! :smiley: And thanks for helping me get the ball rolling on this thread! :)</p>

<p>I think you’re on the right track by focusing on getting a college degree that will allow you to have a back-up career rather than getting a degree in Creative Writing, which really wouldn’t help at all. :stuck_out_tongue: Have you thought about Georgetown for a degree in something related to international politics or affairs? It’s one of the schools I’m highly considering for transfer because my back-up careers right now are journalism and teaching. If I do end up getting a degree, it will probably be in American Studies or some other sociological field. </p>

<p>By the way, have you started writing a novel yet or is it just a goal for your future career? ^_^</p>

<p>Not a problem! =D</p>

<p>I mean, the process of getting the degree would help in terms of honing my ability (workshops, requirements that actually make me follow through on my projects), but the degree itself isn’t really going to get me anywhere. I’ve definitely thought about college in a place where it’s not hard to get involved in the political scene (I’ve definitely been meaning to look into Georgetown, and maybe Carleton, more thoroughly). It’s funny, because I had a talk with my drama teacher, of all people, about this sort of thing, and even he asked why I would want to go to school in order to write. That’s really when I started asking myself about what I really want to do.</p>

<p>I’ll always want to write, though; the urge to express myself in such a way is thoroughly ingrained into my head. The question is, how in the world am I going to make it work without becoming the ‘starving artist’ my parents refuse to let me become?</p>

<p>I’ve… sort of started. I’m a fantasy/sci-fi person, honestly, so I suppose writing a high fantasy style novel (series…?) is on my bucket list. I’ve got ideas and characters, along with bits and pieces written, but I have yet to find a solid, overall plot that I can feel strongly about. Discouraging, but I’ll get there. =)</p>

<p>Hey, you never know! If you start early and churn out a masterwork, you could be a professional author before you ever get the chance to become a starving artist! :smiley: That’s what I’m hoping for myself as well, even if it is pretty difficult to break into the business. :stuck_out_tongue: </p>

<p>But like you, I know that I’m a writer at my core, and I also know I’ll always be more passionate about writing than pretty much any other job I could have, so I’m going to do everything I can to finally finish my first novel and try to get it published. It’s been 6 years in the making, on and off, but for the first time since 8th grade, I have a chance to really focus on it now that I’m taking time off of school. ^_^</p>

<p>That’s awesome that you want to write the next high fantasy series! I like to write in a lot of different genres, but I guess almost all of my works fit into dramedy and slice-of-life. The novel I’m working on right now is also a dystopian, satire, and black comedy. :)</p>

<p>That’s the best-case scenario, actually - the trick is getting there. xD I think it’s what every author dreams of, really, being able to write and not have to do anything else in the name of supporting oneself. Breaking into the business is not something I even want to contemplate at this point; I’m not nearly far enough along to be distracted by an entirely new slew of worries…</p>

<p>And that’s where I’m going to be, I think. What I’m working on is something I’ve been chipping away at since last summer, and I get the sense it’s not going away anytime soon (not to mention my older projects I’d like to see come to fruition). I’m hoping to get some quality work in this summer, but I’m not too sure at this point - my other plans are already beginning to stack up.</p>

<p>See, I wish I could think of a realistic fiction story. I get absolutely nothing that wouldn’t turn autobiographical, and I’m not sure I want that. As for your novel: you had me at dystopian. I love to read dark comedy - writing it is another matter altogether. xD</p>

<p>-butts into conversation- </p>

<p>I’m a HS student looking to major in Musical Theatre… :slight_smile: That’s my exciting college plan once I figure out which college I want to go to. :P</p>

<p>As for books and book-writings, I’ve currently semi-completed a futuristic fiction novel. By semi-completed, I mean in major need of editing, but with a written beginning, middle, and end. </p>

<p>Eiffel: Congrats on your novel! Hopefully, since summer is letting out soon, you can focus more on that and get 'er done. </p>

<p>Smartical: What Eiffel said is right- it’s good your looking for a backup. Don’t need a major telling your how to write- unless you knew a hundred percent that was all you wanted to do with your life- and even then you got some options. :slight_smile: </p>

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<p>Ahaha. Mine has taken a while to form together, as well. School truly does impact how much energy and time you’re willing to give up for your writing needs. I’ve pretty much failed miserably at my chapter-a-day plan… now it’s like, chapter edit once every three months :stuck_out_tongue: </p>

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<p>It truly is, but I’ve found it fascinating to study about. In fact, when I research ways to submit my novel, it gets me more excited and motivated to actually work on it. :slight_smile: </p>

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<p>Obviously, I’m not some awesome, well known writer, but I suggest if you take experiences from your life (almost like a autobiography) and then twist them around… like, what if this happened instead of this? Think extreme (though you don’t necessarily have to do it ‘extreme’ . ^^)</p>

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<p>Plot is nice, but character-driven stories are beast. It’s for me, at least, to get into a character-driven (esp with amazing plot…)</p>

<p>Basically, characters are beast and it’s good you did them first. Now you actually know where your going. :)</p>

<p>(so… maybe if I didn’t quote so much and just paraphrased or something my post wouldn’t be as long? ^^;)</p>

<p>-Also butts into conversation-</p>

<p>Seeing what you guys have written so far is so inspirational! I admire aspiring authors. It seems like American society doesn’t value it’s creative citizens. Good luck to all of you! :)</p>

<p>I enjoy writing too–more of my own random thoughts, than actually creative writing. </p>

<p>I’m going to major in Sociology and then go into Elementary Education, but I will continue to write. If you guys are interested, here is my blog: [The</a> Correct Opinion](<a href=“http://thecorrectopinion1.blogspot.com/]The”>http://thecorrectopinion1.blogspot.com/)</p>

<p>Thanks, VeraKay and bigwill! :smiley: It’s awesome to see more aspiring writers gathering here on this thread. ^_^</p>

<p>So, let’s see…how about I’ll ask a writing question for you all to answer, and whoever answers last can post a new one! :stuck_out_tongue: </p>

<p>So, first question…hmmm…how about, how long do you intend your current work to be when completed? My novel will probably end up being about 400 - 500 pages. </p>

<p>Oh, and VeraKay, I totally agree about character-driven novels; I’m so obsessed with my characters and think that three-dimensional, quirky, interesting, and entertaining characters are the cornerstone of most truly great writings. :)</p>

<p>You’re welkz Eiffel! </p>

<p>If I were to write a piece of fiction (novel), it would probably be about 500-600 pages (for character development). I value character development so much. There’s no point in reading a novel if the characters aren’t meaningful—you don’t have any attachment to them. Same goes for a movie.</p>

<p>I try to capture the human experience in words.</p>

<p>First, kudos to everyone who’s completed a novel :slight_smile: Something which I have yet to do. (I’m working on it!) Right now, I’m just focusing on studying hard, since I’m not sure yet if I want to focus completely on Creative Writing for college. I do want to go to a college with a good creative writing program, though, in case I do decide on it. </p>

<p>My lengthy ‘to do’ list for summer includes writing some short stories, since I could use those to get into programs. Besides, short stories are just plain fun. :slight_smile: In July I’m heading to Iowa YWS and in November I’m NaNo-ing, but at the moment I’m just bogged down with schoolwork. D: </p>

<p>Anyway. Keep up the great work, everyone!!</p>

<p>I just write fiction and poetry as a hobby; my contest submissions have been moderately successful, my magazine submissions have been unsuccessful thus far. I tried my hand at a novel to start with but quickly realized I would need to develop my writing abilities through short stories first. I’m trying to finish a few more before starting on a larger one I’ll hopefully be entering in the Writers of the Future science-fiction/fantasy contest.</p>

<p>I’m not going to college to study creative writing, nor do I intend to make a career out of it. I’ll be going to Notre Dame to study History, though history does often give me story ideas.</p>

<p>I got accepted to Emerson’s well-regarded Writing, Literature, & Publishing program (to my folks’ delight but against their “better wishes”). A lot of big names in the creative field are alumni: Denis Leary, Jay Leno, Steven Wright, Maria Menounos of Access Hollywood, and Max Mutchnick, creator of Will & Grace, for whom the college’s Mutchnick Campus Center is named and who donated the show’s set to his alma mater after the show went off the air, as a token of appreciation for the school that helped him become famous. :)</p>

<p>Emerson’s a rare bird in that the students who are accepted there don’t go to “learn” writing per se; they already have an innate talent, which they need to hone and cultivate by way of workshop-style classes and writers’ groups. Also, they gain experience and knowledge about the publishing world from working on student publications (such as Ploughshares and Gangsters in Concrete), and from networking with other students, faculty, and even alumni who appreciate the quality of talent that comes with the “Emerson name.” There’s an interesting article that my transfer advisor told me to find online from the Boston Globe, which highlights the tongue-in-cheek, unofficial clique of an “Emerson mafia” (not of the Corleone variety!), successful outlets such as Viacom and DreamWorks with alumni in executive positions, who actively recruit students from the college and guide/mentor them to job satisfaction and in many cases, financial success – sometimes fame.</p>

<p>But I do understand why a degree in Creative Writing (or even English) doesn’t necessarily equate to success/notoriety in the publishing world. In the back of my mind I was afraid that I’d be writing essentially “for the class” and not for my own aspirations; also, Emerson specifically has been “lauded” for its visibility on social media sites such as Facebook and Twitter, exactly the sites I’ve managed so far to successfully avoid (I did cave to signing up for a Facebook account but rarely used it and have since deleted it – not just deactivated, but completely cancelled, thank the Great Whoever). </p>

<p>I’m worried that at some point, I might have to take business or marketing courses or <em>gasp</em> public speaking (noooooo!), because the nature of the publishing world is placing more and more responsibilities on the author for self-promotion, and I won’t go for that, no can do (apologies to Hall & Oates). A lot of authors self-publish, and get lumped in with the chaff of 12-year-old anime fanfic writers who upload their PDF Pokemon crap to Amazon and complain when audiences don’t give them J.K. Rowling’s salary for writing the Great American Novel. If I want something published by Adobe or Micro$lop I’ll write an owner’s manual for Photoshop, and give co-author credit to the stupid paperclip that pops up every 10 seconds saying “It looks like you’re trying to write the Great American Novel and suffering an epic fail. Can I help?”</p>

<p>But if I want respect for writing quality fiction, there’s no way I’m going to allow my work to be stripped of all its humanity and soul down to a TV dinner-like Kindle format of meaningless ones and zeroes, and under no circumstances will I ever have a Twitbook page or blog or website. I have a Yahoo account from the Paleolithic Era that I rarely even check anymore; I don’t have any personal contacts who I’d have in my “circle” on such places, and nor do I believe the acquaintances I might have (I’m avoiding “friends” at all costs) would be the type who’d bother to waste valuable time interacting with the Blog Hive Mind who can’t read or write at above a fifth-grade level. In my opinion the vast majority of Tw@tbook/EmoSpace/BoobTube users are no smarter than a cheese grater, and I’d shudder to think of what they’re promoting in the market – and I bet they themselves shudder to find that their teachers, moms, and some 45-year-old D&D pervert from Craigslist are also in the running for the Great American Idiot award.</p>

<p>Even traditionally published writers nowadays have to get a Facebook page or at the very least, an author website, and contact bookstores, newspapers, TV networks, etc., themselves, and manage their own schedules, make public appearances, promote the s**t out of their work because right out of the fence, they’re not going to have the $$$ to hire a good PR firm that does this for them. Agents used to do these things, or at least help a decent amount; now they are almost exclusively a liaison to network with publishers, and the writer has no time to actually write because no one will read his/her work if they don’t know about it. (A lot of agents have blog sites too – how am I going to find an excuse for why I don’t read them?) Most writers are introverts by nature and many may even have a diagnosed anxiety syndrome that impedes their interaction or verbal communication skills (but they are damn near geniuses when it comes to printed words on a page). Geez, if they were just starting out today, Stephen King or J.D. Salinger would have to be a hybrid of Tony Robbins and Rickroll Astley, or else be a “starving artist” doomed to obscurity who lives out in the streets!</p>

<p>Gone are the days when a writer’s worth was determined by the quality of the story. Creativity, talent, compelling characters, a modern classic far from the texting crowd – wait, wait…I’ll bet there’s an App for that too. :(</p>

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Authors always had to get the word out to sell books; as society’s means of communication change, so do the ways authors do that.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

<p>I absolutely love writing also! I have a short story that I wrote last summer that I hope to one day publish. Maybe into a novel??? I’m not really sure :slight_smile: I do hope to write a biography on someone I’m close to one day also :slight_smile: We’ll see! I absolutely love creative writing though…my absolutely favorite type of writing! By the way, it’s nice to meet all of you!</p>

<p>Cherry, congrats on Emerson! It seems like a very interesting and underrated school. But I don’t understand what you find so irredeemable about authors setting up websites, events, et cetera to promote their work. I’m sure many writers still do use agents if they really have some kind of communication impediments or the like, but since when do social networking sites and other websites have anything to do with overcoming shyness? And for those many other authors that are not painfully introverted, what’s wrong with them putting themselves out there for their own work? </p>

<p>HPFan: It’s nice to meet you too! :slight_smile: What genre is your story/potential book? ^_^</p>

<p>Hello :slight_smile: Realistic fiction… I absolutely love to write! There are so many directions I could go in right now! I’m excited for what’s ahead in my life :)</p>

<p>Awesome! :smiley: Are you applying to colleges at the moment? Looking into any writing programs?</p>

<p>I’m already accepted! I’m officially done with hs as of today :slight_smile: So excited to start college!!!</p>