<p>Okay, so I have been hearing a lot of things about OOS admission to Berkeley for this year. Some say that it is as competitive as usual, but others are saying that admission will be easier this year because apparently Berkeley needs money. So...which one is it, and why? Also, if it is easier to get in, to what extent is it easier?</p>
<p>As a side note, if I am an OOS student that applied to CoC, but didn't get a supplemental form, am I to assume that I have been rejected?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>My guess would be that it’s still more difficult to get in OOS than in-state, but easier than it once was. </p>
<p>Definitely don’t assume you’ve been rejected…not that many people get the supplemental form. If your stats are solid then you have a very good chance.</p>
<p>The Berkeley supplement is for borderline students. So if you don’t get it, you have either a very good chance of getting in or not so good a chance.</p>
<p>I’m not sure about OOS admissions this year. I have heard people saying that OOS admits were much smarter in past years…?</p>
<p>OOS admissions were usually perceived as being harder because Cal’s a public school. But over the years, there were great increase in number of these students in Cal. I heard they increased about 10% accept rate for OOS. I am pretty sure they will increase # of acceptance again and since not many people apply, you have good chance if you have solid scores.</p>
<p>Oh, ok. So OOS students should make up about 20% of the accepted students this year? </p>
<p>Also, I’ve heard that admission to CoC is competitive, so I was hoping that I would be considered a ‘borderline’ applicant because there is no way that I am above average for applicants to CoC. Also, do you guys know what would be “competitive” for an OOS applying to College of Chem? I guess it doesn’t matter at this point, but I’d still like to know. I have 4.08 UC Capped GPA, Class rank is top 3.7%, between junior and sophomore year I took 6 AP Courses and 6 Honors courses (most rigorous curriculum), ACT is 34 (with 32 English Combined-12 Essay), 780 Chem, 800 Math 2. Unless I’m mistaken, that puts me at borderline for an OOS to CoC, correct?</p>
<p>Your UC GPA is slightly weaker but your other stats are good. You might be just above the borderline border. Don’t worry so much about it - it’s just about another month until you find out :)</p>
<p>OOS applicants have significantly better stats, but also a higher acceptance rate than instate applicants, but still low enough of an acceptance rate for OOS students to be generally higher performing than instate students. Does that answer your question?</p>
<p>I think your stats are comfortably good enough for the CoC.</p>
<p>Yup, that clears it up. I was hoping my GPA wouldn’t put me out of the game, but I guess it kind of does. Anyway, just have to wait now. :)</p>
<p>Also, if I got straight As for first semester of senior year with 3 APs and 2 college courses and 1 honors, can this help me in anyway? I sent in my grades to Berkeley.</p>
<p>if Cal asked for you to send them in, and you did it on the supplemental questionnaire online, then it would certainly help. If you sent in a transcript, unsolicited, then no it will not get to the admissions reader.</p>
<p>Are you serious? That’s a bunch of bs. Wouldnt they tell me if they didn’t want them? I mean it would be kind of silly for them to accept my ‘unsolicited grades’ but not look at them, right?</p>
<p>Did they email you saying they accepted your transcript? Otherwise, they probably didn’t even take a look at it.</p>
<p>I received an email saying that these changes have been sent to the UCs I have applied to and categorized appropriately.</p>
<p>Oh, then I guess that’ll be taken into account, unless they’ve finished reviewing your application already.</p>
<p>actpro - they do tell you they don’t want them. read the UC application site. They want grades thru end of junior year. They don’t want transcripts. You self report 9-11 grades. The only time you are to send a transcript is after acceptance, over the summer. The admissions system is not geared to use 1H senior grades, although for a small percentage of students they request them as part of augmented review for Cal and UCLA, but entered into the online form provided in the supplemental questionnaire not sent separately.</p>
<p>As far as I know, transcripts are only required after admissions (as Rider said ^). Otherwise grades are self-reported (honor-system ftw). Of course, they will check your transcripts against your self-reported grades, but you only need to worry about that if you’re accepted. </p>
<p>Of course, if you’re accepted they will get to see your senior year grades when you send in your transcripts, that’s where the senioritis panic sets in (since they can potentially revoke admissions should people eff up senior year). Well at least you don’t have to worry about that happening, if you get in. Otherwise your senior year grades won’t really help you, since they don’t review that for the admissions decision anyway.</p>