<p>I'm an Asian science nerd (potentially enrolling in honors and a Ramsey) who is leaning toward UGA (over Caltech and Cornell) for several reasons. One of my major concerns is whether I can fit in the campus life. UGA, as far, as I know, lacks diversity. I don't like parties, footballs, and conservatism culture that UGA is dominated. Nevertheless, is it possible for me to fit in?</p>
<p>I don’t actually think UGA is dominated by conservatism. It may have a little more than most universities, but it is certainly not dominated by. Also, I really don’t want to know why you aren’t going to Caltech or Cornell for science. I can understand money, but if it’s academic difficulty, Caltech has lots of take home tests. Therefore their grades tend to be really high. As in grade-wise, it ends up being easier than most engineering schools. Cornell on the hand will indeed be tough in the sciences, but moreso grade than intrinsic/conceptual rigor wise(though they’ll certainly have that, but it’ll be nowhere as intense as MIT, Berkeley, Stanford, or Caltech). Also, Cornell people like Parties and sports I believe, yet they are not conservatism and are academically driven. If you want an almost completely academically driven campus, go to Caltech (I would hate that, that’s so monotonous and almost conformist. This comes from another fellow science nerd. Trust me, you’d want a campus where students have some balance or else everyone else’s continuous academic stress will essentially be contagious). </p>
<p>In the end, I think UGA’s environment is fine. I have many friends who go who aren’t necessarily party-folks and darned sure aren’t conservatives and like it just fine. Again most won’t be conservative, just a larger minority than normal (as expected at many state flagships in the south). If anything, it would be somewhat apolitical or at least that’s the vibe I get.</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>When I went to UGA I was surprised at what I saw! I expected to see tons of students in a drunken stupor performing bizarre haze rituals and what not (haha maybe I’m exaggerating a bit). But from what I witnessed, the student body actually appeared to be diverse. The town of Athens is actually pretty liberal. During the day you’ll get an “artsy” vibe while you’re downtown! It’s amazing! Once when I went, my mom and I were amazed at the number of hipsters we saw!</p>
<p>If you’re going to be in the Honors Program, you have nothing to worry about. I’ve seen the Honors kids and they’re very nice and learned. Although they also party (partying is what college is about, after all). </p>
<p>You’ll definitely find your group of friends at UGA! Just join some clubs that interest you and you’ll be fine! One thing that I really loved about the campus is that there seemed to be SO much to do! There were people socializing everywhere and there were lots of activities taking place! Someone who was there with me also mentioned how she and her mom saw people having a hammock party near some trees! Now THAT is amazing!</p>
<p>Maybe you should befriend some UGA people on Facebook. Maybe people who used to attend you high school who are now at UGA?</p>
<p>In some ways, I empathize with your concerns! I was also accepted into some pretty good schools and got a full ride to one of them but after visiting UGA, I’m beginning to question if those other schools fit me as well as UGA does.</p>
<p>Have you visited UGA yet? If you haven’t make sure you do so soon, because you’ll quickly learn that all of your preconceived notions aren’t necessarily all that true! Haha trust me; the same thing happened to me! At first I looked down on UGA and now I actually want to go there!</p>
<p>I’m sort of interested in why you wouldn’t want to attend Caltech or Cornell. Those are superior pretty schools. As others have suggested, I would visit UGA and just see if you feel anything when you visit. I know when I visited UGA for the first time, I knew it was where I wanted to go. I just got this vibe that I loved and I just really liked the feeling I was getting. It was something I didn’t feel when I visited other schools. If you don’t have time or if there are no more openings, you don’t have to go on a tour with the visitor’s center. You could just come to campus and walk around and check out the place for yourself. That might be an even more real view of UGA because you won’t be biased by the tour guide, who is obviously going to show UGA in its best light (and take you to the prettiest parts of campus). </p>
<p>Whether your college experience is dominated by parties and football all depends on who you hang out with. There are plenty of people who do not like to party or who aren’t into football. Getting away from football might be a little hard on game days, but it doesn’t have to be your life if you don’t want it to be (but seriously…you should at least attend one game! It’s a great experience regardless if you like football!). </p>
<p>I don’t think UGA is THAT conservative. It might be more conservative than average, but it’s also a southern school, and some conservatism is to be expected. But there are definitely a good number of people who aren’t conservative, and most of the teachers here aren’t conservative.</p>
<p>Make friends during orientation, make friends in your hall, make friends in the dining hall (during the first couple of days, it’s completely acceptable to just join a random table and introduce yourself to the people there), go to club meetings and try meeting people there, make friends in your classes - these are all ways you can meet new people and make friends on campus. I’d say we’re a pretty friendly campus, and it’s easy to meet new people during the first couple of weeks of school when everybody is sort of dazed and confused and still feeling out the place. Among all the people you meet, you’re bound to meet a couple people that you click with and share the same interests that you do. I have no doubt that you’d find your niche at UGA.</p>
<p>How is any of the stuff you saw shocking coolpg? I mean, I know you like it, but it’s a very stereotypical state flagship, collegetown type vibe/atmosphere. None of it is surprising. If you go there, you best stay focused however as you are an honors students. I’d imagine it’s easy to get distracted. Have you come here yet? I thought you said you were visiting this past week. Either way, generally you have to wait until like 4-5pm before stuff starts (when almost everyone, but those in labs are out of class). And even then on certain weekdays (TW in particular), stuff will happen during class. Heck it’s springtime, this will be the most socially vibrate part of the year for most, especially state flagships. </p>
<p>I think Emory is kind of like UGA, but w/o the collegetown and a more toned down party scene There is a huge social scene, but it’s more directed toward more cultural and intellectual activities, which makes sense b/c of the diversity. Nonetheless, there are still plenty or random/interesting occurrences and parties. Also, if you take the hipsters out of the town center and put them in the student body, you get Emory. It has to essentially be the most liberal campus in Ga.</p>
<p>Thanx, I’m leaning toward UGA for this reason
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/1120610-cornell-vs-caltech-vs-uga.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/1120610-cornell-vs-caltech-vs-uga.html</a></p>
<p>Your problem is that you assume that UGA is as accommodating with your research endeavors. You may have more time for it, but you have to get it first. The other two make it very easy to land the research. Doing a publication is in your hands and is dependent upon your ability. Again, do not assume your GPA at CalTech will be crap because it’s hard. The average GPA at CalTech is actually very high among the Engineering/Science predominated schools b/c of the take home exams and stuff (as said above). Also, I’ve seen their work in say bio and organic chem, it really isn’t that hard conceptually (though the workload maybe annoying). In fact, their orgo. even seems easier than our harder profs (like no contest), same with Cornell. At Caltech, it’s the physics and math core that is extremely tough (whereas everything at say MIT is brutal). Bio at Cornell is known to be hard, however, I would imagine that research opps. are accessible as early as first year like at any other top 20, so the size doesn’t really matter. Research universities have so many lab that every bio major can get in so don’t worry. Also, Cornell probably does have lots of pre-meds, but the grading is kind of softcore like the other top 20 privates (except Princeton, Chicago, and MIT which are probably the harshest graders. Actually, MIT is just plain hard), not many courses have averages below B- (in fact, only about 2 do). </p>
<p>I honestly think the additional rigor at Cornell could be beneficial boomshakalaka. It’ll help supplement your research endeavors better. Don’t view it as something that will simply get in the way. If you have more intellectually rigorous material, you’ll understand your research or field of interest much better. Plus, many science classes/profs. at top schools tend to focus on teaching students how to do science and think like one(application) moreso than simply being able to take an exam and do well (memorization, which will not help intellectual/research endeavors but so much). For example, even intro. level sciences will try and heavily incorporate research apps. and experimental design into the curriculum. Both Cornell and Caltech will do an awesome job at this. UGA’s honors may do it too, but I’m betting it’s implemented on a larger scale at the other two. That’s the reason I’m actually glad to be at Emory, it takes science education very serious as it is trying to train many very serious aspiring doctors and researchers. And the number of advanced courses offered for your intended major will probably be greater. If Caltech is less affordable, strongly reconsider Cornell. The rigor will not hurt you. It’s really sad that people think rigor is something that can only get in the way. You’ll find that it pays off and perhaps increases the chance that you publish a paper. As a person who was admitted to all 3 of these institutions, you should be no stranger to it. And the fact that you applied to Cornell and Caltech indicates that you should be somewhat comfortable with the idea of a solid, but rigorous curriculum. To make an allusion to Cornell: My friend who is now here, had an opportunity to take microbiology at Cornell when he was in HS and got an A-. He’s a hard worker, however, this just shows you it is possible to do well. </p>
<p>Also, at private schools, there are less hoops to jump through in terms of pre-reqs and stuff for certain courses, especially after intro. courses. After those, “you can have w/e you like”.</p>
<p>UGA has tons of research opportunities, especially for Honors but even more for Fellows/Ramseys. You can get involved in real lab work from the moment you step on campus- this is why UGA has had great success with the Goldwater Scholarship in the past. Sounds like from the other thread you already got a good situation set up though, so it looks like you know what you’re doing here. </p>
<p>UGA’s rep could hurt you if you don’t get any kind of “outside validation” - i.e. real conference presentations, publications, summer work elsewhere, etc. There is a distinct difference between say, the CURO conference and a national-level research conference, so make sure to focus on those and use CURO as practice. Don’t count on your recommenders from UGA to do everything- get to know professors in your area of research at other schools! UGA can probably help you get conference travel/presentation $$ too, so definitely make use of that. UGA also has had a lot of success with NSF GRFs.</p>
<p>In short, you should make sure that you get outside of UGA and show that your work is on the level of students everywhere else (if not beyond). Does that make sense? I think UGA sets you up pretty well to be able to do that, but it’s up to you to use the resources at your command to find those opportunities. </p>
<p>RE: Bernie12, UGA has fewer requirements for most students than most private schools because of the generosity of AP credit. Many Honors students enter with sophomore or junior standing and with most of the pre-reqs out of the way (and those that remain can usually be taken as honors courses, which make them much more enjoyable). Thus, I wouldn’t worry about UGA’s requirements slowing anyone down.</p>
<p>But I look at y’alls science classes and it seemed as if many other upperlevels had requirements other than introductory courses. Or maybe that was the non-sciences(Actually I think this is right and lesser so for sciences). For example, for whatever reason, it seems that pre-reqs for many of the political science courses. It’s like you have have almost take them step wise as opposed to arbitrarily selecting courses through various sub-topics, Like, you have to have comp. gov, US. gov., international politics for the major or before upperlevels. Here, AP credit, pre-req, no pre-req, you can start at whatever level you want to. I haven’t touched an intro. political science or history for example. I went straight to 200 levels and special topics. Hardly none of these upperlevel classes had pre-reqs though a few recommended certain prep. courses, decision to enroll is left up to the student. It seems as if privates (or at least top ones) are more flexible/more trusting with ability of students to handle non-science courses w/little formal background. But then again, many of the courses are taught less formally and knowledge is obtain through lots of primary source readings, research, and writing moreso than textbook/normal lecture. </p>
<p>You’re certainly right in that Private Schools are tougher in the AP credit area (like we limit ours to 6 courses now). They want more money and they don’t trust the rigor of AP vs. equivalent courses (unfortunately they are often right, but most students end up okay). Most Emory students come in w/sophomore standing (or become it by second semester, and can’t go as high as junior standing) If anything, If I were the OP: I would look at the biology course offerings and decide what they like. It seems all will be solid in the research realm (though as vigs indicate, others will make it easier to get your research some exposure).
vig: Is it hard to take grad. school classes there? Maybe that can be an opportunity afforded to the OP if they come in with a high class standing. They can start w/upper levels and develop the background necessary for the grad. school to allow her to take grad. level courses. It’s what I’m currently doing (I don’t intend to write an honors thesis, but wanted to explore some topics in organic chem. and biology further as it is my current and future area of research). Perhaps they can start it much earlier via UGA honors. Grad. classes are awesome! The one I’m taking at least on par with my best undergrad. courses, though it is hard as hell as expected (Luckily, my freshmen orgo. class was really tough and had already exposed me to some complex topics in bio-organic). Most of the whiney pre-meds are gone and only those who want learn (grad. students and motivated Ugrads) are in it. Makes it a much better environment. It’s much like my physical biology class last semester which was 1/2 grad. students (though technically an undergrad. course. The grad. students were actually really useful).</p>
<p>HEY BERNS!</p>
<p>I haven’t chatted with you in a while 
Unfortunately I did not attend Emory this past week. After receiving me financial aid package I realized that I would not be able to attend. 
The package was actually pretty good but I received a full ride from UVa and UGA will still end up being cheaper. Originally I was supposed to attend the Essence of Emory program, but after seeing the package I decided not to go (I didn’t want to make excellent friends at Emory and feel sorrowful for not being able to attend uni. with them)! I’m so freaking emotional 
Haha!</p>
<p>As far as the atmosphere at UGA is concerned I was actually very surprised because it didn’t seem like the traditional flagship at all! I’ve visited a few times now and so far every time I went to UGA I got this relaxed vibe. I seriously expected to see a bunch of college jocks everywhere, but that wasn’t the case. I saw more hipsters (especially downtown). Moreover, I was on a tour with the Honors kids and they all contradicted any preconceived opinions I had about UGA. They were all extremely smart and they didn’t fit the stereotype either. Although I’m sure they don’t reflect the entire student body in terms of academic dedication and personality, I was quite pleased knowing that I’d have a network of friends in the Honors program who I could relate to and fall back on. Last week I was up there for an apprenticeship and they were all extremely helpful! I was also surprised because I got a small liberal vibe while I was on campus! Being in the deep south and in a small town, I expected UGA to be pretty conservative! I was surprised to find that there was a minor liberal undertone. Although I’m sure there are a lot of conservatives, I sensed a great number of liberals too (especially the Honor kids I talked to). I have no doubt that a liberal will be able to find his place on campus!</p>
<p>So sorry about that. Did you like UVa at all. Many of my friends here love that campus. It’s really one of those have your cake and eat it too. Lots of social events, great facilities, cool Georgian architecture, solid, but not too rigorous academics. I’m sure one of my friends’ plight through science courses here is making him wish he just went on to UVa’s honors program, even though it would cost about the same(UVa would have been a more relaxed environment in general and less uptight in terms of rigor/competition). He loves his research and profs., but the rigor/his performance is taking a toll. It is quite a transition to go from being able to get 5s on APs self-study w/ease, but getting grades no higher than B+ in most science classes(unfortunately he has even gotten a B- and a C+ in gen. chem and orgo 1 respectively, and is still struggling through orgo. II. Emory really doesn’t play games in pre-med courses at all).<br>
Also: I don’t know, I kind of found UGA stereotypical, but not in the “jock sense”, it just was a very stereotypical collegetown type place, very much like Ann Arbor (but of course less intellectual). I don’t really care about jocks as you’ll get that at any southern school w/D-1 sports whether it is Vandy, Duke (Duke and Vandy’s demographics/reputation does not save it from that), w/e. I actually kind of overlooked it, or assumed it was the norm also. I probably had different expectations from you. The stuff you found surprising just wasn’t as surprising to me. Surprising is the fact that places like Tech have a huge social scene despite the rigor of academic demands. Their social scene is one that thwarts the stereotype. Though some Tech students and outsiders will tell you differently, many tend to over-exaggerate. I’m over there a lot and there are often lots of things going on at any given time. </p>
<p>Oh yeah, Essence seemed kind of fun this year (coincidentally it’s when at least one black fraternity or sorority has its probate/initiation ceremony, and that’s always a fun event). Feel free to come on down to Atlanta and check us out (a lot of UGA folks come down here on weekends like the GA/FL game or Fall Break when Athens is deserted, so that may be an oppurtunity) if you ever get a chance if you attend UGA. Best of luck.</p>
<p>As a UVA grad, I am trying not to laugh too hard at the “solid, but not too rigorous academics” at UVA. UVA has been known for a long time as a school that knows how to both study hard and have a good time. If by honors program you are referring to the Echols Scholars, Echols is not a traditional honors program. They do receive priority registration within their class year, are not required to fill the standard college area requirements, and can declare an interdisciplinary major. But they must be part of the College of Arts and Sciences (no engineering, commerce, etc). And there aren’t any scholarships automatically associated with the program. For 1st Year students there is no application for Echols, Admissions makes the selections (a little over 200 per year).</p>
<p>In short, I don’t think that most would consider UVA to be “not too rigorous”. Most UVA students were all A students in high school and meet their first B or lower in college. Agree that the grounds, facilities, and social environment are great at UVA.</p>
<p>As has been pointed out in many threads, your college experience will be what you the student make of it. Take advantage of what your school has to offer and the odds for success are high. There is no one “right” school.</p>
<p>Boomshakalaka: You have great options to choose from and I wish you all the best. If you end up at UGA, I have no doubt that you will find challenging and fulfilling research opportunities and plenty of intellectual people to be friends with.</p>
<p>Coolpg: You also have great options to choose from. I’ve enjoyed reading your impressions of UGA and have witnessed many of the same things. Lots to do in Athens and there are more cultural events at UGA than any student will have the time to attend. If anything, my daughter has found that there are way more cultural events, readings, lunch box events, clubs, Honors program events than she could possibly hope to attend. Hazelorb on the UVA forum has a lot of good info from the perspective of a current UVA student. Let me know if there is anything an older UVA grad could help you with.</p>
<p>I didn’t mean it is not rigorous. I just mean it’s probably at least a little more laid back than many private counter-parts, many of which are pre-professional factories of sorts (given that, classes, especially pre-prof. cores in sciences get extremely tough content wise. Here, it’s tougher to grapple w/the material than to get the grade in such classes. Getting the grade is a matter of working the curve if there is one).<br>
UVA is a tough grader like most public schools, I forget that (and non-honors classes are large and certainly more rigorous than most publics, which kind of equalizes the difficulty in terms of environment between it and private peers). But my friend friend admits that his friends at UVA (and many other schools) have not really experienced the “conceptual” rigor that he has in science courses here (he let them see his pdf files w/work on it for courses that they took at the same time). It may have some hints of truth if UVa is anything like Berkeley for example. Whose work/exams I’ve viewed before. It’s definitely hard and requires quite an adjustment, but it doesn’t come anywhere close to what I or this friend has seen in counterparts here.<br>
I was speaking for UVA as a whole, not really the honors program. He would may have been more supported within the realms of the honors program than he is here for all I know. Picture being in a class with a prof. that makes the course on par or harder than maybe even the UVA honors counterpart, but is instead 2-3 times the size of that honors class, is graded on a curve vs. the average of a bunch of extremely talented students. Sometimes, even with a great, somewhat nurturing lecturer/prof., it’ll be so competitive, that if you slip up or don’t catch on as fast as everyone else, you’ll still finish on the wrong side of the curve. That can suck badly.</p>
<p>Some science profs. here(luckily normally it’s the better ones) teach classes like biology or organic chem. near the same level as some profs. would teach an advanced undergrad. course on the topic at a peer institution (UVA, top 20s w/e; and this is in a somewhat typical lecture setting, so it can be very brutal). Basically, the better profs. here are almost crazy with their expectations (if only I could show you what I meant) and definitely require lots of “outside the box thinking”.</p>
<p>Hey somewhereinga!</p>
<p>Nice knowing there’s a UVa grad on the UGA forums as well! I’ve seen plenty of hazelorb’s responses; however, I have yet to message her! I’m actually going to visit UVa next week! If all turns out well, I might end up going there. If I don’t like the social environment as much as I do UGA’s (and if I get a lot of scholarship and FA money from UGA), then I will probably go to UGA! To be honest, I’m more excited about UGA than UVa! But I guess we’ll just have to see what happens :D</p>
<p>Berns,
Thanks a lot! I’ve also heard the UVa’s ground are pretty nice! From what I’ve seen online they look…green. Hahaha! Kinda like Emory (a park!). Honestly, I’m not too concerned about the appearance as much as I am other things! I think UGA has a pretty good campus (definitely not as much grass or space) and Emory has a gorgeous campus as well! As long as the place doesn’t look like a rundown, podunk, country village, I’ll be fine! :p</p>
<p>I’ve also heard that UVa was pretty rough with the academics. If anything I imagine UVa students being like the Honors students at UGA. Dedicated and studious, but still willing to let loose on the weekends. That’s cool I guess. I do have a question, though! If I go to UGA I’ll have about 6-7 AP credits in the general education requirements! However, if I go to UVa, I’ll have like 1! (All of the APs I’ve taken aren’t even required by the school! And the ones that are required, I ended up making a 4 on the exam…UVa requires 5s on some of them ):<!</p>
<p>Soo would it be better for me to just go to UGA?! I’ll have A LOT more flexibility with my schedule (UVa has A LOT of GERs)…and I don’t feel like being told what to take! That’s high school and it’s not cool!</p>
<p>(Gosh, I just realized that I totally ignored the OPs question…makes a feeble attempt to construct an answer somewhat relevant to the original question…). Yeah, you’ll LOVE UGA! Ruff!</p>
<p>No, I think you underestimate the benefit of GERs. Also, I think they are probably more flexible than you think. Often your GERs will be quite fun and perhaps encourage you to pursue another area of interest alongside your primary area. Emory has lots of GERs and I’ve enjoyed it so far. And honestly, I came with 7-8 APs and dropped half of them to retake those courses (like bio 1 and freshmen Writing Requirement. Should have skipped bio 1, it was hard for me, but English was awesome and very interesting. I also learned how to write in the less rigid style that Emory profs. prefer as opposed to the rather boring formulaic style encouraged in AP Eng/History Courses. Needless to say it wasn’t easy, but I did well) and simply because I didn’t need the other ones. AP credit or not, I still had to take Health, a frosh seminar, at least 1 sem. of bio and chem. I took freshmen orgo. instead of gen. chem 2 via my AP credit allowance. Best decision I ever made, That class was awesome and it really toughened me up. It makes the classes at even peers look simple like simple orgo b/c Soria showed no mercy and decided to teach us at a higher level than a normal orgo. class.<br>
GERs are nothing like HS, you get to take them in certain broad areas and they are normally taught in a more engaging way than HS courses. </p>
<p>I honestly think Emory’s academic environment was much tougher and scholarly before the new GERs which are almost too flexible. Before 2008 (when I came in), Emory was more like a liberal arts college with a really tough core where you had to take courses in very specific areas (say, “Politics” as opposed to “Humanities, Sciences, and Culture” which very vague). This was beneficial in the sense that it actually bought the students together more often. I imagine the science and social science/humanities students to be much more integrated back then. You didn’t have science majors activity avoiding (or perhaps even looking down upon) others in particular fields b/c they were made to at least take courses in those areas, thus building some appreciation and unity among the student body in the academic sense. Everyone must go outside of their comfort zone and perhaps collaborate with each other. It could have fostered much better legit “cross-disciplinary scholarship” instead of merely having so called “interdisciplinary depts” which still allows for self-segregation of students across disciplines so is only superficial. However, the whining caused that curriculum to be completely overhauled to a point where it reflects Emory’s liberal arts roots much less. I think they should have honestly settled for some middle ground. They should consider reinstating some of those requirements. It’ll restore a greater level of rigor and a common experience that makes the Emory experience/curriculum unique from similarly ranked research Us of our size (kind of like The science cores at MIT/Caltech that every student must go through, even non-engineering, and Columbia’s “core” and some Ivies’ Junior/Senior Projects. Unique unifying aspects that both induce and are indicative of rigor of an institution). </p>
<p>It really depends on the school. As a private school(especially as a supposedly top one, where you have to prove what makes the institution special compared to others, and often this is the curriculum or method of education) . Building a certain, unique academic experience is very important. And normally curricula such as those old GERs indicate at least an attempt to live up to the mission of the institution through methods of educating them. It may somewhat get in the way of “your good time”, but you’ll receive a broader and more rigorous education so that you can somewhat tackle or even be able to merely converse about topics outside of your specific area of interest/expertise. That’s always useful(or at least makes one more interesting). My experience tells me that it is not simply a method of control and actually serves a noble purpose. HS was a bunch of BS in the sense that a lot of stuff learned was often trivial and had little context. Really depends on how you look at it, and what aspects of higherEd you seek/value. As a future researcher, the actual academic experience matters a lot, the facilities/social atmosphere are just an added perk. I only need a “reasonable” social atmosphere, not a perfect one. As long as I have good teachers and friends, I can get over not being in “rah, rah” all the time. Speaking of this, you should know that even folks at very top schools known for rigor party on weekends(weekdays, w/e). Refer to the Yale controversies if you don’t believe. Anyone who manages time reasonably, can do solidly at a top school and have a vibrant social life. It may not be quite like a state schools’, but it is more than reasonable in most cases.</p>
<p>I’m assuming your enrolling into UGA as a graduate of 2015? If you decide to choose UGA, maybe we can encounter each other. I’m Asian also (Korean), and not really a huge fan of all partying and etc either. I’m not a science type of guy, but I’m easy to get along with. If your looking for a dorm room mate, maybe we can skype one day and see how each of the other are. Let me know.</p>